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What has happened to LSU's Physical MO?

Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:06 am
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:06 am
Forever, LSU has been known as an extremely physical football team. A&M felt it for many years after joining the SEC. I remember watching LSU absolutely dominate A&M on the LOS and in the open field.



Fast forward to recent years, and it does my heart good how much the script has flipped. LSU is soft. Both lines for A&M whipped the shite out of LSU. Over 200 yards rushing vs. ~20 yards. Your 1st round offensive tackles were revolving doors.

Is this a Brian Kelly issue? Has he historically had soft teams? This would highly concern me as an LSU fan - physical football has always been synonymous with LSU and they have been Charmin soft under your coach.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:09 am to
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Both lines for A&M whipped the shite out of LSU. 


Did they? A&M couldn't do anything on offense until Reed came in, and LSU was playing two 3 star defensive tackles in the middle.

As for the run game, that's been a common theme this year.

This physical dominance thing is revisionist history, LSU just had no answer for Reed.

quote:

Your 1st round offensive tackles were revolving doors.


A&M barely touched Nuss, until it became obvious passing situations every down.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35235 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:12 am to
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Did they? A&M couldn't do anything on offense until Reed came in, and LSU was playing two 3 star defensive tackles in the middle.


Come on man.

They beat us up front.

How do you doubt that?


ETA:
Aggy had 245 rush yards
We had 24 rush yards
This post was edited on 10/28/24 at 9:15 am
Posted by DBird
Member since Nov 2023
712 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:12 am to
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A&M barely touched Nuss, until it became obvious passing situations every down.


Hurries are a thing too...I'm sure that you would have been happier with an extra 3 sacks instead of those interceptions. On all 3 of them he was under pressure.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
51341 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:15 am to
It's like they switched to Nerf Foam plates in the weight room.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
15320 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:16 am to
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A&M barely touched Nuss, until it became obvious passing situations every down.
I thought A&M's DL depth would be the difference in this game. Depth doesn't come into play until later in the game obviously.

Would love to see the amount of QB hurries/flushed from pocket/sacks by quarter.

But LSU being in obvious passing situations didn't help.
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5833 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:16 am to
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As for the run game, that's been a common theme this year.

This physical dominance thing is revisionist history, LSU just had no answer for Reed.



You can't be serious. Were LSU's WRs better than our DBs on quick routes? Yes absolutely. But you couldn't run the ball or stop the run essentially the entire game.

quote:

A&M barely touched Nuss, until it became obvious passing situations every down.


Nuss was ready to quit by the end of the game. And almost all downs were obvious passing downs - you averaged one yard per rush.

Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13172 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:23 am to
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This physical dominance thing is revisionist history, LSU just had no answer for Reed.

The 5 lowest graded players on LSU's offense were the 5 linemen...
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:32 am to
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But you couldn't run the ball or stop the run essentially the entire game.


Roughly 150 of A&M's rushing yards came after Reed was inserted.

Prior to Reed, A&M was averaging roughly 3.7 yards per carry which is good but hardly dominant.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
18257 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:36 am to
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quote:
Both lines for A&M whipped the shite out of LSU. 


Did they?


Yes, they pretty much did.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:37 am to
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Hurries are a thing too...I'm sure that you would have been happier with an extra 3 sacks instead of those interceptions. On all 3 of them he was under pressure.

No doubt.

On the first pick, he was flushed from pressure up the middle and ran to his left and made a terrible decision. Should have thrown it away instead of throwing (somewhat) across his body.

Second pick, he had a clean pocket overall, ball was out by the time any rushers were free, the corner just jumped the route.

Third pick, the defender rushed and then dropped into coverage. I don't think Nuss could see the A&M player from where he was. Great play by the defense.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
14539 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:39 am to
Yes, good job of baiting by York.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
5788 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Is this a Brian Kelly issue? Has he historically had soft teams?
Tide bully Irish. Capture 3rd BCS title in 4 years.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:46 am to
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The 5 lowest graded players on LSU's offense were the 5 linemen...


Looking at PFF, Campbell and the backup LG were graded poorly as well as DT Paris Shand.

DT's Suggs and Paez were 2 of LSU's top 3 graded players.
Posted by ConcreteThreshold
Denver, CO
Member since Jun 2017
1576 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:50 am to
It happens when you have to rebuild half a roster from scratch. You have to take what you can get before you get back to top tier
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17307 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:52 am to
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No doubt.

On the first pick, he was flushed from pressure up the middle and ran to his left and made a terrible decision. Should have thrown it away instead of throwing (somewhat) across his body.

Second pick, he had a clean pocket overall, ball was out by the time any rushers were free, the corner just jumped the route.

Third pick, the defender rushed and then dropped into coverage. I don't think Nuss could see the A&M player from where he was. Great play by the defense.

1st pick - Nuss was trying to be Mahomes.. Nice play by the defender, but it was mostly just a really bad pass. should have thrown that one away.. that play changed the whole game.

2nd pick - CB shows man and switches to zone.. Great D. Impressive play.

3rd pick - LB shows blitz then gets lost in the shuffle and is waiting to pick the RB screen.. probably is spying the QB as well.. again, great Defense.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13172 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Looking at PFF, Campbell and the backup LG were graded poorly as well as DT Paris Shand.


Again, the 5 lowest graded players on LSU's offensive were the 5 offensive linemen.
Posted by teamjackson
call me Walnut
Member since Nov 2012
7040 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:57 am to
I love reading your posts after your autistic hard-wiring has stopped working.

You lost. LSU isn't as good as you think. They will probably beat Bama. Go touch grass.

Also, take a shower
Posted by 212ZonePress
Member since Jun 2015
395 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:59 am to
Booger Mac, Marc Spears, G. Dorsey rolling over in their graves right now...
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
18033 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:59 am to
quote:

It happens when you have to rebuild half a roster from scratch. You have to take what you can get before you get back to top tier

Are LSU fans really still using this in Kelly's third year?
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