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Alabama buddy has new perspective on recruiting since NIL and can't say I disagree
Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:36 pm
A good friend of mine swung by the house to visit and we usually talk crap to each other, but not yesterday. You have to understand my buddy is a huge Alabama fan, and when it came to recruiting, we have exchanged many, many entertaining texts over the years. When Alabama was plucking Monroe kids left and right, it was nonstop crap from him, but it was all in fun.
Yesterday, I asked about landing the big OL Dubose from Vigor, which is from our area. I was shocked when he stated he didn't give a shite. Not expected, at all. He stated he didn't care about any recruit until they earned his respect and put on a uniform, worked their rear end off and showed they wanted to be there, and even then, Alabama still might get screwed.
Since NIL has exploded, he said he doesn't follow recruiting much because a verbal commitment simply means that team has the best offer on the table currently, but that could change anytime, even after they signed with a particular school.
To say I was shocked at his stance, would be a huge understatement, because my buddy followed Alabama recruiting 24/7. It's weird because 99% of the time, we never agree, but I have to say, I think I'm starting to feel the same way.
Yesterday, I asked about landing the big OL Dubose from Vigor, which is from our area. I was shocked when he stated he didn't give a shite. Not expected, at all. He stated he didn't care about any recruit until they earned his respect and put on a uniform, worked their rear end off and showed they wanted to be there, and even then, Alabama still might get screwed.
Since NIL has exploded, he said he doesn't follow recruiting much because a verbal commitment simply means that team has the best offer on the table currently, but that could change anytime, even after they signed with a particular school.
To say I was shocked at his stance, would be a huge understatement, because my buddy followed Alabama recruiting 24/7. It's weird because 99% of the time, we never agree, but I have to say, I think I'm starting to feel the same way.
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:50 pm to SwampyWaters
Yep. Totally agree with that take. Recruiting means very little up front. It will mean something later of course but there's no way one can get too excited on someone's first commit anymore. It really doesn't mean jack shite.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:56 pm to theballguy
Yeah, it's a lot tougher when everybody can pay, with the NCAA's blessing.
Recruiting still matters.
Recruiting still matters.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:58 pm to SwampyWaters
I treat it like baseball. Never get too attached to a player.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:05 pm to SwampyWaters
My buddy from Monroe would tell you that most of those kids were from West Monroe and not to tarnish the good name of Monroe like that
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:21 pm to SwampyWaters
Totally agree. Even moreso, the free transfers are worse than the NIL but they go hand in hand and it is pay for play. To be honest, the kids you sign now, you are just their starting point. Some of these guys will play for 5 teams. It means little to nothing now having a great class.
I wanted some cuffs put in place on this stuff but that just isn't going to happen.
I wanted some cuffs put in place on this stuff but that just isn't going to happen.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:29 pm to Ptins944
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Recruiting still matters.
It matters but it's undebatable that recruiting fresh croots no longer matters nearly as much as it once did. The portal as a source is becoming bigger and bigger.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:31 pm to SwampyWaters
Any sort of "commitment" now is a marketing decision and part of the negotiation of the athlete in preparation of the final NIL contract on signing day. It is to unofficially say to all other schools "hey... school A has made a very strong offer that is far enough above everyone else and you need to step up and beat them before signing day if you are interested in my services". These top athletes are ALL collating data until the final moment and THEN will make their final decision. I am sure a lot of them have been given their top offer so not a huge amount would change but there is way too much incentive now to not keep your options open until the very last moment, even if you say you are "committed". Being "committed" is just free marketing that will put your name out there so that everyone knows how in demand you are hopefully driving up the bids.
Following recruiting in the middle of the summer is about as interesting as some board room contract negotiation 6 months before the deal can even be signed.
Following recruiting in the middle of the summer is about as interesting as some board room contract negotiation 6 months before the deal can even be signed.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:32 pm to SwampyWaters
When you’re unhappy, you can either adjust your outcome or your expectations.
It’s usually a lot easier to do the latter.
I feel the same way here.
It’s usually a lot easier to do the latter.
I feel the same way here.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:35 pm to SwampyWaters
Nil has killed my love for the college game. Has killed the pageantry and history and what made CF special compared to the NFL where your fav player on your fav team may play for your rival the very next year.
I likely will still watch Bama games next year, some top SEC ones and a few top non conference ones, but I think over the next 3 years my viewership will likely drop off by 50% plus. I did this with the NFL 15 years ago and now it's barely any full games a year. But that's just one guys opinion not predicting anything overall.
I likely will still watch Bama games next year, some top SEC ones and a few top non conference ones, but I think over the next 3 years my viewership will likely drop off by 50% plus. I did this with the NFL 15 years ago and now it's barely any full games a year. But that's just one guys opinion not predicting anything overall.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:48 pm to theballguy
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It matters but it's undebatable that recruiting fresh croots no longer matters nearly as much as it once did. The portal as a source is becoming bigger and bigger.
This.
It has also made NCAA sanctions have little to no effect as well.
Back in the day, you had to build a team over a 3-4 year period. You recruited them, then you had to coach them up etc, and eventually they would start.
If you lost a bunch of scholarships, that was a huge hit to your program that would last multiple years, because you are basically missing 1 or 2 classes.
These days, you just have a slightly lower than normal roster for a single year, and then you just fill in the next year with transfers.
I miss those days. frick these mercenary players.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:49 pm to SwampyWaters
How often were you shocked?
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:52 pm to 3down10
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If you lost a bunch of scholarships, that was a huge hit to your program that would last multiple years, because you are basically missing 1 or 2 classe
Even then, could pile up walkons getting NIL payments and not miss a beat w/ the class.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:59 pm to SwampyWaters
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To say I was shocked at his stance, would be a huge understatement
Then you've had your head in the sand. At least 100 times a day someone on here reminds everyone that in the age of NIL, recruiting isn't so important anymore.
And they're right.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 2:11 pm to SwampyWaters
Typical. Now that buying players is legal the ones that benefited the most from paying players illegally are the most offended
Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:04 pm to SwampyWaters
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Since NIL has exploded, he said he doesn't follow recruiting much because a verbal commitment simply means that team has the best offer on the table currently, but that could change anytime, even after they signed with a particular school.
Especially with high school kids, even if they do make it to campus it doesn’t mean they’ll be there more than one year.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:15 pm to SwampyWaters
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Since NIL has exploded, he said he doesn't follow recruiting much because a verbal commitment simply means that team has the best offer on the table currently, but that could change anytime, even after they signed with a particular school.
That's it.
Cash talks. There is no loyalty to a school or staff. Facilties? $50,000 per game playing in a cow pasture will top $10,000 per game in a Taj Mahal stadium.
There is going to have to be some sort of contract structure laid out, or this turns into an even more unrepairable mess.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:20 pm to SwampyWaters
NIL is free agency on steroids since there is no contract to deal with.
NFL teams have lost a good bit of connection to the fan because players have become transients.
The portal weakens the impact of recruiting high schoolers- the bigger impact will be on those players who have aged, filled out, and demonstrated they can handle the rigors of being a student athlete. I’d rather hitch up to a more mature 19-20 year old than a 17 year old incoming freshman that may very well go off the deep end.
College athletics will experience the same and it will be on a grander scale.
NFL teams have lost a good bit of connection to the fan because players have become transients.
The portal weakens the impact of recruiting high schoolers- the bigger impact will be on those players who have aged, filled out, and demonstrated they can handle the rigors of being a student athlete. I’d rather hitch up to a more mature 19-20 year old than a 17 year old incoming freshman that may very well go off the deep end.
College athletics will experience the same and it will be on a grander scale.
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:31 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
This is me two years ago except I haven't watched any games and haven't missed it one bit. I do miss college football though but it will never go back to that.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:36 pm to SwampyWaters
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He stated he didn't care about any recruit until they earned his respect and put on a uniform, worked their rear end off and showed they wanted to be there, and even then, Alabama still might get screwed.
Lol I don't think anyone from the players to the coaching staff gives a crap about this nobodies "respect".
The reality is the same people who will cheer you will abuse you the minute you aren't doing what they want.
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