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Mount Rushmore of college baseball programs?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:27 pm
I would have these 3 as locks.
1. SoCal: 12 titles overall, including 5 straight in the early 70's
2. Texas: One less title than LSU, but slight nod due to total CWS appearances (38, almost 2X runner up USC with 21) , longevity, and stability (4 coaches in 106 seasons from 1911-2016, omitting 3 years in WWII).
3. LSU: Relatively later success, but dominating run in a period of higher competition and still chugging along.
The fourth is where it gets really subjective. Arizona State is alone in 4th with 5 titles but has not won it since Reagan was still recovering from being shot. I would be more inclined to go with Cal State Fullerton just for having 4 titles at a school with almost nothing else it's known for. Arizona and Miami have the same number of titles in the same time span, but I still think CSF is the overachiever.
So, Soggy Burrito gets partial credit for 2 of the 4 I have on my list.
1. SoCal: 12 titles overall, including 5 straight in the early 70's
2. Texas: One less title than LSU, but slight nod due to total CWS appearances (38, almost 2X runner up USC with 21) , longevity, and stability (4 coaches in 106 seasons from 1911-2016, omitting 3 years in WWII).
3. LSU: Relatively later success, but dominating run in a period of higher competition and still chugging along.
The fourth is where it gets really subjective. Arizona State is alone in 4th with 5 titles but has not won it since Reagan was still recovering from being shot. I would be more inclined to go with Cal State Fullerton just for having 4 titles at a school with almost nothing else it's known for. Arizona and Miami have the same number of titles in the same time span, but I still think CSF is the overachiever.
So, Soggy Burrito gets partial credit for 2 of the 4 I have on my list.
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:28 pm to Ag Zwin
College Baseball was an afterthought until the mid-90’s
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:29 pm to lsusteve1
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College Baseball was an afterthought until the mid-90’s
Is that because LSU sucked before the 90s?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:29 pm to Ag Zwin
California colleges used to swing a big johnson rod in college baseball. The kids out there have been leaving in droves to schools with better fan support. Namely, SEC schools.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:30 pm to Ag Zwin
Florida St
Yes they have as many natties as UNC, Tenner, Kentucky, NC St, and Aggy but being an Omaha regular has to mean something
Yes they have as many natties as UNC, Tenner, Kentucky, NC St, and Aggy but being an Omaha regular has to mean something
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:35 pm to Ag Zwin
I tell ya who WON’T be on that monument….
.., the friggin Tennessee Volunteers.
.., the friggin Tennessee Volunteers.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:36 pm to TDFreak
Thank you Captain Obvious.
I’m pretty sure THE TENNESSEE VOLUNTEERS wouldn’t disagree, lol
I’m pretty sure THE TENNESSEE VOLUNTEERS wouldn’t disagree, lol
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:39 pm to Ag Zwin
To reply to your post… gotta have USC, LSU, and Texas… I like CSF for four… then yeah, 5 … might go Arizona. ASU (and Miami) haven’t been relevant in a long time.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:41 pm to Ag Zwin
So many downvotes already.
LSU types bent about being a close 3rd, or everyone else bent about them being there at all?
LSU types bent about being a close 3rd, or everyone else bent about them being there at all?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:43 pm to Ag Zwin
LSU absolutely belongs there, but I’m sure the bentedness is being 3rd. Second, if anything. They would claim first because USC hasn’t been relevant in so long, but a National Monument wouldn’t be specific to the last 30 years.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:55 pm to lsusteve1
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College [sport] was an afterthought until [whenever LSU became good at sport]
-LSU fans
Posted on 6/16/24 at 7:56 pm to lsusteve1
“College Baseball was an afterthought until the mid-90’s”
It is currently an afterthought. LSU’s rise to prominence only changed its popularity in that state. If it wasn’t an afterthought the major networks would be televising games weekly. I haven’t seen college baseball on NBC, CBS or ABC. Even ESPN is reluctant to cover it until the college World Series right along side the women’s CWS and the track and field championships. It isn’t in the same solar system as college football and basketball.
It is currently an afterthought. LSU’s rise to prominence only changed its popularity in that state. If it wasn’t an afterthought the major networks would be televising games weekly. I haven’t seen college baseball on NBC, CBS or ABC. Even ESPN is reluctant to cover it until the college World Series right along side the women’s CWS and the track and field championships. It isn’t in the same solar system as college football and basketball.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:01 pm to lsusteve1
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Mount Rushmore of college baseball programs?
lsusteve1
College Baseball was an afterthought until the mid-90’s
College Baseball gained traction actually in the early 80's when ESPN started televising the College world series. Back then you had the 8 team Double elimination format and it would last 2 weeks since ESPN had no issue with it going that long and the NCAA saw that as a chance to grow the sport.
Lots of really good players that went on to MLB were featured in the CWS back then.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:03 pm to Ag Zwin
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So many downvotes already.
LSU types bent about being a close 3rd, or everyone else bent about them being there at all?
It's the only reason you made this thread
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:06 pm to Captain Insano
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College [sport] was an afterthought until [whenever LSU became good at sport] -LSU fans
Yeah, college track was an afterthought until the 70s when Arkansas started winning championships. Am I doing this right?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:17 pm to Ag Zwin
I’d probably say Miami which makes Warren Morris’ HR even better.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:21 pm to Ag Zwin
USC (12, 1998)
Texas (6, 2005)
Arizona (4, 2012)
LSU (7, 2023)
I think this one is fairly easy. College football would be much tougher. For reference, I added number of NCs and most recent title.
This post was edited on 6/16/24 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:28 pm to hg
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It's the only reason you made this thread
To pump up Texas?
Do you even hear yourself?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:31 pm to TouchdownTony
quote:I would challenge that... it changed the approach for the rest of the SEC.
“College Baseball was an afterthought until the mid-90’s”
It is currently an afterthought. LSU’s rise to prominence only changed its popularity in that state.
Until LSU's rise, the SEC power was Miss State, a team that hadn't won a CWS.
LSU's run resulted in LSU making (a modest) profit in baseball instead of running in the red, and the rest of the league took notice of that. Arkansas, South Carolina, Vanderbilt, and for awhile Alabama all put in the work and also became elite (Bama for almost a decade, where they were the clear #2 to LSU nationally for awhile, but never broke through). Miss State and Ole Miss put in a lot of money and eventually won titles. Florida also, and A&M stepped up their game too. Even Auburn has been to the CWS, and now Tennessee and Kentucky have elevated their games to the point where that might be the showdown in the finals.
I would say none of that likely happens without LSU's surge, and the fact they turned a profit doing it.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:33 pm to TDFreak
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tell ya who WON’T be on that monument….
Today or this year absolutely not. If they go on 20 year run of 3 out of 4 years making Omaha?
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