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Will schools start cutting non revenue sports?
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:04 am
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:04 am
Ole Miss announced that they are pausing all athletic facility renovations in anticipation of the NCAA ruling. Now that college athletics are being forced into a purely business model, will they start cutting nonrevenue sports? I think that they do and we may actually see some programs shutter altogether.
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:14 am to Landmass
When is the NCAA ruling?
Going to be crazy if there are no more football walk ons. Smaller teams, ~100 instead of 130, but everyone on scholarship. That ruling?
Going to be crazy if there are no more football walk ons. Smaller teams, ~100 instead of 130, but everyone on scholarship. That ruling?
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:16 am to Landmass
Yes and I think some of the first to go will be what is referred to as olympic sports. I guess you would have to look at the P and L for each sport and see which ones lose the most. Soccer carries a lot of scholarships so if you did away with it you would have to do away with a lot of men's sports. So I think it will be something like womens and mens tennis. Women and mens golf. That would cut the same scholarships across the board. I am not saying those would be cut but just of an example of how to do it evenly.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:21 am to Landmass
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Ole Miss announced that they are pausing all athletic facility renovations in anticipation of the NCAA ruling.
At least you got a new basketball gym, just in time. The rest is coming like an F5 Tornado. It should be obvious by now this new age NIL isn't going to sneak up on anyone. We are only one or two more federal mandates from cutting ties with our past. Good riddance.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:39 am to bamameister
You can have facilities or one year players. You can't have both.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:44 am to Landmass
Yes. Why be so so in a bunch of sports when you can be competetive nationally in a couple. Most schools don't have good fanbases for non revenue anyway.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:52 am to mrbroker
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Yes and I think some of the first to go will be what is referred to as olympic sports. I guess you would have to look at the P and L for each sport and see which ones lose the most. Soccer carries a lot of scholarships so if you did away with it you would have to do away with a lot of men's sports. So I think it will be something like womens and mens tennis. Women and mens golf. That would cut the same scholarships across the board. I am not saying those would be cut but just of an example of how to do it evenly.
If we get to the point they're employees and not amateurs, can't you just end the scholarship deal all together and of they elect to goto school that's on them to pay for it? Cut whatever other non revenue sports you want. It's probably going to get real dirty for the non superstars. Like a player loses not only his ability to play in the league but loses his ability to goto school for free as well when a bad injury occurs.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:58 am to Themicah86
definitely gonna be some belt tightening with that $20 million plus expenditure each school will pay out every calendar year
I think it starts with facilities being sliced from the budget first then the shrinking of athletic department employees like Alberts already did at A&M
more partnership type deals like LSU is creating to build a new arena that will also benefit the city
I think most schools will do as much as they can to protect the sports themselves but the days of LSU funding a beach volleyball team is likely over as that should probably be a club or intramural sport
do athletic departments need cooks and nutrition specialists anymore - if the athletes are making money they can hire their own
I think it starts with facilities being sliced from the budget first then the shrinking of athletic department employees like Alberts already did at A&M
more partnership type deals like LSU is creating to build a new arena that will also benefit the city
I think most schools will do as much as they can to protect the sports themselves but the days of LSU funding a beach volleyball team is likely over as that should probably be a club or intramural sport
do athletic departments need cooks and nutrition specialists anymore - if the athletes are making money they can hire their own
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:01 am to Landmass
With that ruling it'll make Title IX a disaster. Forcing colleges to keep non-revenue sports based on sex. Can't wait for that hearing.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:05 am to USAFTiger42
only the poors will be cutting sports
hell, Texas is the only athletic program that has given $150 Million to Texas Academics the last 10 years, $15M per
hell, Texas is the only athletic program that has given $150 Million to Texas Academics the last 10 years, $15M per
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:23 am to charliethehun
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only the poors will be cutting sports
hell, Texas is the only athletic program that has given $150 Million to Texas Academics the last 10 years, $15M per
Are you related to GatorOnAnIsland? You are both a couple of Texas shills masquerading as something else.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:37 am to Landmass
I don't see the Mississippi schools surviving tbh.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:39 am to nicholastiger
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I think it starts with facilities being sliced from the budget first then the shrinking of athletic department employees like Alberts already did at A&M
A&M hasn't sliced facilities from the budget. We just announced an $80 million renovation of the baseball stadium.
We did cut some overpaid - but beloved - senior athletics department staff.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:40 am to Landmass
No...TV money etc will work it out
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:42 am to Landmass
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nonrevenue sports?
You mean non-profit sports? I would imagine even the lowest sports bring in SOME revenue
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:44 am to nicholastiger
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definitely gonna be some belt tightening with that $20 million plus expenditure each school will pay out every calendar year
But where does the money go and to whom? Title IX would not necessarily apply equally because athletes would be selling their media rights to their schools. That is going to get settled in court. No surprise there.
The settlement that goes back to 2016 is going primarily to football and basketball players. Schools are going to have the same freedom to discriminate and pay their best athletes in the most productive sports going forward. Schools decide where the money goes going backwards and forwards. The short version? To football and basketball players.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:00 am to thunderbird1100
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I would imagine even the lowest sports bring in SOME revenue
Most of them operate at a loss.
And yes, I think most schools will end up cutting sports. And men's sports will be the first to go unfortunately. unless something changes.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:20 am to Landmass
I actually like the idea of the money going to the programs and players that “earn” the money by being the sports that people want to see. I find it repugnant that we get sports like WBB crammed down our throats by the ESPN cultural elites, while Title IX forces colleges to give scholarships to women in sports like this that hardly anyone really cares about.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:44 am to FlyDownTheField83
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I actually like the idea of the money going to the programs and players that “earn” the money by being the sports that people want to see. I find it repugnant that we get sports like WBB crammed down our throats by the ESPN cultural elites, while Title IX forces colleges to give scholarships to women in sports like this that hardly anyone really cares about.
The only thing not as clear is the collective. If the collective gets integrated and defined under the same 21-million-dollar federal mandate, schools are going to have a lot more fun money to pay for their new favorite players. Maybe Brian Kelly even decides to splurge on one of those 2 million dollar defensive tackles.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:49 am to Landmass
Put on a good show and a good product and you remain solvent.
Otherwise, it's time to close the doors. Simple math to me. Why cowtow to golf for example? Keeping a sport intact when they are being subsidized by other revenue generating sports doesn't make financial sense.
Otherwise, it's time to close the doors. Simple math to me. Why cowtow to golf for example? Keeping a sport intact when they are being subsidized by other revenue generating sports doesn't make financial sense.
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