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Alabama academics

Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:58 am
Posted by cdur86
Member since Jan 2014
1019 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:58 am
I know I know, blashphemy on this subject on this board as it says directly "Alabama Sports Board" but I wanted to get opinions from those who have college aged children in the state of Alabama and has sent them to other schools within this state.

This is kind of from a couple threads on the SECrant and I have noticed that many Bama posters have sent their children to other schools in this state. I am going to try to work with the Alumni association in my hometown to see what we (alumni or friends of the university) can do to get more interest from high school students in this state to apply and attend Bama. For those that have children who decided to go elsewhere, what was the determining factor(s) in your kids choice?
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4364 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:04 pm to
???
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30525 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:27 pm to
Academic rankings are less meaningful than college football rankings.
Posted by beeko
Bama
Member since Oct 2018
140 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 1:10 pm to
My daughter was deciding between Alabama and UNA. She decided on UNA because it was smaller and easier to get the classes she needed. She got a degree in Nursing and decided it doesn't matter where you get your nursing degree from. It basically came down to UNA was a better fit for her.
Posted by Bamachief
Member since Aug 2021
1063 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 1:11 pm to
Find a way to make it cost effective for most of the parents in state.
Posted by bamafan1953
Member since Jul 2020
353 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 3:12 pm to
I had one daughter go to UA (long-time Bama fans); the other daughter who was always a Bama fan went to AU and unfortunately is now a die-hard Aubie. Education was equal, in my opinion. UA daughter got a nursing degree. AU daughter got a degree in Chem E and went on to med school. From a parent's perspective, sorority life seems better at AU. Would not have wanted my daughter to join sorority at Bama for multiple reasons -- cost being the primary one. Both had great experiences and got a great education.

Scholarships were better at Bama at that time. Not sure about now. Daughter #2 actually had a little higher ACT score but didn't get room and board like daughter #2 at Bama. Both great schools.
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6024 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 3:19 pm to
The plan for my child is that she goes to an in-state institution since we have a 529 for her already and we sorta pegged our monthly contributions to hit a number that is likely to be around the cost of tuition at UA in a decade and a half (and some change). Ideally UA because we're close and there are some additional benefits that would make it a better deal almost certainly unless the other in-state school is offering to write her big checks above and beyond total cost of attendance.

My opinion is that undergraduate is mostly replacement level education unless you have a specific, unique undergraduate program you or your child is eying for a career. I hope my child is the type that goes from UA crimson in undergraduate to Harvard crimson for graduate/doctoral to be quiet honest.

It is early days yet and they certainly become their own person with their own ideas in due time...
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 3:21 pm
Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
904 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:15 am to
I have a 2024 graduate and she’s going to Miss State, because they rolled out the red carpet for her. Her academics are really good, and she turned down about ten offers from D1-D3 schools for soccer to play club at MSU. We toured MSU and then Bama in the same week, hitting MSU first. They were amazing, and offered her a job on campus. She received weekly handwritten notes from her recruiter and others.

We get to Alabama and it’s beautiful, the new welcome center in the old Bryce hospital is jaw dropping… it was first class all the way. We’re in a big conference room and no kidding, we’re the ONLY people from Alabama and I’m the ONLY alumni. Alabama seemed to could have cared less. Unlike State, they offered no other personal tours, and we couldn’t get anyone to meet with us one on one like state did to discuss academics. My Alma mater didn’t seem to really want my kid.

She graduates from a 6A school in Baldwin County and MSU went above and beyond to get her. Bama… not even a little. I will say this, about 10-15 of her friends boys and girls applied to both Auburn and Alabama, every single one of them including mine got into Auburn… THREE including mine got into Alabama. That’s what blew my mind.

TLDR MSU rolled out the red carpet, Alabama could have cared less, they were more interested in the out of state students.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1982 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 12:10 pm to
I remember a professor at a smaller university over in Ga (related to my wife)
tell me that education at the under graduate level isnt that different. He was a math professor and said I can teach an under graduate math class as well as anyone at Duke. The difference is in upper lever, PHD programs.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
782 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 4:56 pm to
I can give you my view as an Alabama alum with a wife is is an Auburn alum. I have 3 daughters. Both of the older girls had over 4.2 GPA's. Auburn recruited them much harder and more effectively than did Alabama. Auburn offered a far better scholarship package to both of them. They both went to Auburn. They were both in a sorority and both had a fantastic experience at Auburn. Both had grown up as Alabama fans and gone to games in Tuscaloosa often.

I have 4 nephews. 3 of them had above 4.2 GPA's.All 4 grew up as Auburn fans but were out of state students. The oldest went to Vandy (full ride) and never considered Alabama. The second, same age as my oldest daughter, had the same level of grades and same level of ACT/SAT scores. Alabama rolled out the red carpet for him. He went to Alabama on a fullride scholarship in the School of Engineering.

Nephew #3 was an Alabama resident by heis Soph year in High school.Same level of grades and test scores. Alabama did not put on the hard press they had for #2. He took a full ride at Covenant College near Chattanooga.

Nephew #4 had pretty bad dislexia but fought his was to pretty good grades and test scores. Just not National Merrit Finalist level. He went to Alabama solely because of the field of study he wanted.

Alabama prioritized out of state over in state ina major way. One out of state boy got the carpet rolled out and two in state girls got largely ignored.

My 3rd daughter is a Jr. in High School. He grades and scores are fantastic (4.2+ GPA) but not quite as high as that of her cousin and two older sisters. She is an out of state student. Alabama is pursuing her like they did her cousin. But for her, Alabama is just a "back-up plan" school. She is Auburn first, Vandy second, Florida State 3rd, and Texas 4th. Alabama's treatment of her sisters ruined their chances of landing her.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51100 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 5:32 pm to
My kid wants to go into biomedical engineering. When we talked to UA, they told us to go to UAB.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11470 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:26 am to
We are out of state. Both daughters had achieved the highest level of Bright Futures here in FL and could have gone to any public college in state tuition free. Oldest daughter got a Presidential scholarship to Bama and a few weeks ago graduated Summa cum Laude with dual degrees and admission to Alabama law school.
Youngest just got a full ride to Bama. UA wasn’t her first choice; she wanted somewhere more prestigious. But 1) she hates Gainesville so that eliminated the in state option. 2) Nobody gave her enough money to match what Bama was giving. She was looking and applying to UVa, UNC, Georgetown, George Mason, William and Mary, George Washington, Washington and Lee, Ole Miss, and a couple of other schools. She was accepted everywhere but UNC (rejected) and UVa (waitlisted) and got money from all of the rest, but they couldn’t best Bama. Ole Miss came closest. All this to say Alabama is a great school and a great value. It may not have the reputation of a UF (which is quite frankly, bullshite IMHO. They have a good medical school and a good law school. Other than that, meh!) but they attract good OOS students because of the campus, the athletics, and scholarships. My oldest had friends from Cali, Colorado, Kansas, and Arizona. Alabama was a better value for most of them and most weren’t on scholarship like mine. Alabama is doing a LOT of things right to attract the out of state kids. They could probably improve their in state practices to get the kids from Alabama. But overall, I think they are doing a great job.
My oldest was applying to law schools and had gotten into a couple like Tulane and UF but the minute she got accepted to Alabama law, she shut it down and sais she wanted to be in Tuscaloosa for 3 more years.
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 12:28 am
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24268 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 12:51 am to
I know I’m not from Alabama but I do k ow that a lot of major universities are pricing themselves out of students. If I can go to a small school and pay less than half the tuition for the same degree why would I not do that. Honestly unless you are getting a medical degree, engineering degree, law degree where the benefits outweigh the cost of tuition why go to a major in state college?
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16652 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 8:37 am to
Not a Bama alum and I let my two decide where to go. I did not send them anywhere. The oldest really liked his time at UAB and got a great job with his degree. The younger one followed in his footsteps and also had a great experience. It didnt hurt that we had relatives that lived in the Bham metro area where she could go and crash or have small gathers with her friends.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19749 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 2:26 pm to
Send your kids to community college for the first 2 years to get their basics out of the way
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