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Respect for Saban as a coach, but he's a hypocrite when it comes to pay for play!

Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:48 pm
Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:48 pm
I just listened to Saban speak before congress and I just find it comical that he would now find a problem with pay for play, when Alabama has been paying players to come play for them for years. Yes, NIL is out of control, and yes, all the big time programs have been paying players for years, but I just find it humorous that Saban would be the poster child to speak against NIL when he had no problem paying for players all those years at Alabama, as long as they signed with his program.

I have tremendous respect for him as a coach, but to go before Congress and rail against NIL, I find very amusing. It's like inviting Bill Clinton to speak before Congress on the sanctity of marriage.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:49 pm to
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he had no problem paying for players all those years at Alabama


Prove it.
Posted by Clark14
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:50 pm to
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It's like inviting Bill Clinton to speak before Congress on the sanctity of marriage.


Or inviting trump to talk about honesty.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18292 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:52 pm to
I mean I highly doubt Saban paid anyone directly. Might have happened but he didn't have to know about it.
Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
904 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:53 pm to
Jesus Christ… all you frickers wanted was for Big Bad Saban to go away for years, you just couldn’t wait for the day he was gone…now that he has left the game, y’all can’t keep him off your tiny little battered wives minds and follow his every move on the internet.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 3:54 pm
Posted by BIGJLAW
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:55 pm to
Quit whining.
Posted by Tideroller
Lower Alabama
Member since Jan 2022
2394 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:55 pm to
I know this is a troll and I understand a lot of folks don't like Alabama or Saban because of how much he won, but he's not the coach at Alabama anymore and appears to be trying to get something done about what's happening in college football right now, and affects ALL teams, not just Alabama. Get over the hate and listen to him, this stuff is hurting everybody.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15609 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:05 pm to
Doesn’t sound like you actually listened to it.

The problem is unlimited transfers, which one of the things he pointed out was how the likelihood of them graduating goes down about 20% each time they do
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30319 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:09 pm to
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I just find it comical that he would now find a problem with pay for play, when Alabama has been paying players to come play for them for years.
quote:

I just find it humorous that Saban would be the poster child to speak against NIL when he had no problem paying for players all those years at Alabama, as long as they signed with his program.

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I have tremendous respect for him as a coach,
How could you possibly have "tremendous respect for him as a coach" when he paid players all those years?
Posted by saturday
Pronoun (Baw)
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:23 pm to
Shut up, dude. The GOAT finally retired; I love NIL bc it caused him to have enough with the BS.


quote:

The hypocrite is the amount of money he made out of college football


very true
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 4:24 pm
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9808 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

I just listened to Saban speak before congress and I just find it comical that he would now find a problem with pay for play, when Alabama has been paying players to come play for them for years. Yes, NIL is out of control, and yes, all the big time programs have been paying players for years, but I just find it humorous that Saban would be the poster child to speak against NIL when he had no problem paying for players all those years at Alabama, as long as they signed with his program.

I have tremendous respect for him as a coach, but to go before Congress and rail against NIL, I find very amusing. It's like inviting Bill Clinton to speak before Congress on the sanctity of marriage.


Stop whining, its all good. Now if you really believe, which you don't, that Bama was the only school (yes Bama buys players) that did that, well, good luck in life but chill out. The public has spoken, NIL is fine, collectives are fine, the transfer portal is fine, Saban wasted his time (and our governments) and let's move on.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8716 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:49 pm to
This thread is very original.
Posted by Bubdylan
Member since Dec 2018
102 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:15 pm to
Reading between the lines, Saban is saying something like this:

Previously, whatever the combo of handshakes, bagmen, access to cars, blah blah, it did not create an environment in which the majority of players said "pay me X dollars and guarantee me playing time or I'm gone."

But now that it's like that, it sucks in 2 ways: harder for the coaches to develop the team they want, and harder FOR THE PLAYER TO DEVELOP INTO WHAT WILL SERVE HIM BEST IN THE LONG RUN.

These players are going to grab top instant dollar, lose motivation, piss their money away, and end up tragic stories of excess. Like any of us would who made these choices at that age.

If you think Saban doesn't actually care about that side of it, and made up this whole sequence of feelings including that conversation with his wife, I don't know what to tell you.

Time will prove him right as these money grab players become broke and down and out by age 22.
Posted by BIGJLAW
Member since Mar 2013
8455 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:16 pm to
LOL at the usual suspects responding in this thread.
Posted by TIGERVATO
Spring, TX.
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:03 pm to
Gumps are still in denial. :lol:
Posted by Strokers Ace
Member since Mar 2024
80 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:25 pm to
It's the epitome of hypocrisy for someone who was making north of TEN MILLION dollars a year to lecture us about paying student athletes.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19785 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:34 pm to
That sound bite is one of the saddest things I’ve ever seen in sports. They’ve ruined amateur athletics
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18528 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:09 pm to
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have tremendous respect for him as a coach, but to go before Congress and rail against NIL


He said he doesn’t have issues with players getting paid when they earn it. Giving recruits big time NIL deals isn’t sustainable and he is correct. I have no issue on his take.

Players that sign with companies for sponsorship is what NIL is about. Collectives setting up NIL deals for players basically to do nothing isn’t.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 8:12 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
23037 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 11:34 pm to
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he had no problem paying for players all those years at Alabama


If you think Saban ever personally paid a player then you are stupid and have no idea how things work.

It would do nothing but undermine all of his authority and put his entire career in the hands of 85 different college kids year after year. Any of them could at any time spill the beans and end his career and the success of the football program.

How is a coach in that position going to put any authority on them? Much less the kind of authority and control Saban demanded from them? How is it possible that in all the years he was a coach, not a single recruit ever did such a thing?

Because that's not how it fricking works, that's why.
Posted by Luckyduck
Member since Feb 2024
128 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 4:14 pm to
Sabans pissed because now everyone can pay players above the table.
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