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This year likely hurts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:40 pm
But, a solid coach is assembling a very good staff.
I bet Saban wishes half his roster would have transferred in 2007. He had to raze everything instead.
There is goodness in playing with those who want to be somewhere and feel a part of it
Bama likely takes their lumps in 2024, but the right culture (albeit different than Saban) is in place to do good things and set conditions for a new era.
Different isn't always bad. It's just different. It could happen sooner, but I'd bet this staff makes a consistent CFP run by year 3.
It's a new age. Kids are getting a chance to be millionaires before they ever graduate. Hard to blame them. I recall those ramen noodles and miller lite nights.
I bet Saban wishes half his roster would have transferred in 2007. He had to raze everything instead.
There is goodness in playing with those who want to be somewhere and feel a part of it
Bama likely takes their lumps in 2024, but the right culture (albeit different than Saban) is in place to do good things and set conditions for a new era.
Different isn't always bad. It's just different. It could happen sooner, but I'd bet this staff makes a consistent CFP run by year 3.
It's a new age. Kids are getting a chance to be millionaires before they ever graduate. Hard to blame them. I recall those ramen noodles and miller lite nights.
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:43 pm to Che Boludo
There might be a lot of positive in being rid of both fans and players who were only attracted to the brand, rather than any real loyalty to the team or university.
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:45 pm to Che Boludo
Hoping for 8-4 and a good win over a rival. Praying for some good bounces to do better than that...
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:48 pm to CrimsonCrusade
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real loyalty to the team or university.
People need to understand those days from a player perspective are dead and gone. Fans have emotional ties to a university for various reasons. I’m a fan because my father was from Alabama and it’s how I was raised and I love spending a few hours on Saturday watching the game with him and my son but that’s an emotional connection to Alabama football. Most of these kids that aren’t from the state of Alabama don’t care about Alabama. Bama doesn’t have any of the national titles since Sabans arrival without kids from all over the country.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:50 pm to Diego Ricardo
You guys do realize we still have the same amount of four and five stars on our roster as Georgia, right?…
Where the frick is this 8-4 shite coming from
If our coaches are what we expected we hired, we should be a top 10 team next year
Where the frick is this 8-4 shite coming from
If our coaches are what we expected we hired, we should be a top 10 team next year
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:53 pm to Diego Ricardo
I had us 7-5 to 11-1 since the Deboer hire.
I hope that some of the portal kids only declared as an insurance policy and stay home.
That said, I posted before from a close friend whose cousin is a potential starter next year the portal is a money maker. It goes beyond ties. It can make a 20-year-old a millionaire. That is tough to compete with—a whole new era.
We'll be fine. De Boer is the right guy to get us back in position to attract and hold onto the talent we need.
I hope that some of the portal kids only declared as an insurance policy and stay home.
That said, I posted before from a close friend whose cousin is a potential starter next year the portal is a money maker. It goes beyond ties. It can make a 20-year-old a millionaire. That is tough to compete with—a whole new era.
We'll be fine. De Boer is the right guy to get us back in position to attract and hold onto the talent we need.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:56 pm to UhOhOreo
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You guys do realize we still have the same amount of four and five stars on our roster as Georgia, right?…
Where the frick is this 8-4 shite coming from
If our coaches are what we expected we hired, we should be a top 10 team next year
1. Year one of a new staff with a significantly different approach on offense and defense
2. Alabama has lost an All-American quality safety, starter quality corner, starting left tackle, and their top two returning pass catchers.
3. Transfers have exacerbated a big turnover in the defensive backfield
4. New staff's first foray into the SEC. They're going to discover some things that worked against Oregon doesn't work against Georgia despite it being the same play call against the same defense.
It is hard to be scientific but first year teams tend to lose games they shouldn't. Remember Nick Saban losing to ULM? Even with a Shula roster, that is a really inexplicable loss for Alabama.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:59 pm to UhOhOreo
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Where the frick is this 8-4 shite coming from
Don’t know I fully expect to win 10 games next year.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:59 pm to Che Boludo
Yea there’s not gonna be a year three if CKD can’t finish in the top 12 in either of his first two years. 8-4, 9-3 gets coaches fired at Alabama. He inherited the top program in the country. This is not a rebuilding job and if it turns into one that means we hired the wrong coach.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:01 pm to CrimsonTider98
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This is not a rebuilding job
31 players to date leaving and key starters says it is a rebuilding year.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:01 pm to Che Boludo
I don’t see it that way at all. This team is way more talented right now than his Washington teams…we’ll lose some more guys most likely but this will still be a talented roster. Just not the depth we’re used to.
If DeBeor is as good as we all think he is then I believe we’re going to piss the CFB world off next year when they see we’re still good…that’s if CKD is what his overall record says he is.
Saban was the greatest CEO and recruiter of all time…but the X’s and O’s/development part of our program got stale. I think DeBeor and his guys are rockstars when it comes to actual coaching.
The real decline will be over time and that’s if DeBeor can’t recruit like he needs to recruit. Not saying that’s the case but I’m saying if we completely fall off it’ll be over time. Not immediately.
If DeBeor is as good as we all think he is then I believe we’re going to piss the CFB world off next year when they see we’re still good…that’s if CKD is what his overall record says he is.
Saban was the greatest CEO and recruiter of all time…but the X’s and O’s/development part of our program got stale. I think DeBeor and his guys are rockstars when it comes to actual coaching.
The real decline will be over time and that’s if DeBeor can’t recruit like he needs to recruit. Not saying that’s the case but I’m saying if we completely fall off it’ll be over time. Not immediately.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:02 pm to labamafan
Still a roster loaded with four and five stars. It’s his job to replace the players lost. If we go 8-4 next year, it means we hired the wrong coach.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:02 pm to CrimsonTider98
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This is not a rebuilding job
That's 2010s logic, as it sure feels like one under the new rules.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:04 pm to labamafan
The OP said we shouldn’t expect to make the 12 team playoff until year 3. Let’s be clear, if CKD does not make the playoff kn either of his first two years, he should not get a third year. I’ve never been a championship or bust guy, but being in the top 12 is the bare minimum at Alabama.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:05 pm to Diego Ricardo
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They're going to discover some things that worked against Oregon doesn't work against Georgia despite it being the same play call against the same defense.
It worked against Texas with about half the talent that he has right now. And Texas is just a notch below Georgia in the SEC.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:06 pm to labamafan
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:08 pm to CrimsonTider98
Do you actually think, on the evening of Jan. 17, 2024, we have without any shadow of a doubt the top program in the country?
I’m not slitting my wrists over anything, and I have full confidence in the new staff but we are in the middle of a weeklong cataclysm. You put those kinds of expectations on DeBoer until we get this vehicle running straight between the lines and it’s going to confirm every caricature people have about our fanbase.
I’m not slitting my wrists over anything, and I have full confidence in the new staff but we are in the middle of a weeklong cataclysm. You put those kinds of expectations on DeBoer until we get this vehicle running straight between the lines and it’s going to confirm every caricature people have about our fanbase.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:08 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Year one of a new staff with a significantly different approach on offense and defense
Which we’ve done quite a few times.
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Transfers have exacerbated a big turnover in the defensive backfield
It’s really just the corners where we’re thin, and we’ll still be starting a five star in Domani, multi year guy in Malachi, and a handful of second year high four stars and five stars. If not taking someone like Muhammad from the portal
The majority of the defense is returning and the front seven is all in place already
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Alabama has lost an All-American quality safety, starter quality corner, starting left tackle, and their top two returning pass catchers.
Again, we have depth behind them. They might not be as good, but they’re good. Were also likely to land a few UW starters on line and a solid replacement for Bond in Germie Bernard
We’ve lost far more to the draft year over year before. We at least didn’t lose a QB, which would’ve been far more impactful. We also have all of spring to implement the new guys
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New staff's first foray into the SEC. They're going to discover some things that worked against Oregon doesn't work against Georgia despite it being the same play call against the same defense.
I don’t even get this point. Cristobal recruited that roster into a top ten team on the talent composite while Lanning is straight from Georgia and ran a dominant defense against every opponent but UW.
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It is hard to be scientific but first year teams tend to lose games they shouldn't. Remember Nick Saban losing to ULM? Even with a Shula roster, that is a really inexplicable loss for Alabama.
In what world would you compare a sanction riddled roster to this one?
Jesus Christ people get a fricking grip
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:08 pm to EGO3x
Exactly. The OP wants fans to accept Shula-era mediocrity. That’s not going to happen. It’s playoffs or bust right away. CKD has everything he needs to put together a roster capable of making the top 12. No excuses.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:10 pm to Che Boludo
I actually don't believe that it hurts. I think that we make the playoff.
CKD's offense with the players we have on our roster gets me jacked to the tits. This dude has turned every program he's been at around in the first year basically. He doesn't have to turn anything around here. He has players good enough to win already.
CKD's offense with the players we have on our roster gets me jacked to the tits. This dude has turned every program he's been at around in the first year basically. He doesn't have to turn anything around here. He has players good enough to win already.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 8:14 pm
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