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re: This year likely hurts

Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by Bigfoot67
Member since Mar 2013
2007 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:14 pm to
The portal should be open for everyone for 30 days instead of just the teams losing coaches.....it would reduce the poaching to some extent if coaches knew they could also lose players
Posted by EGO3x
Member since Oct 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:15 pm to
It’s funny because the guys here that constantly bring up the late 90s/early 2000s act like that’s who Alabama is…they’ve been scarred for life. That ain’t Alabama. We were on probation and made bad hires. That’s a small capsule in time compared to the rest of our history yet everyone always points to those years as if it’s Alabama’s true identity. It’s garbage.

Alabama pulled Nick fricking Saban from an NFL job and won 6 National Titles. Could any other school do that? I don’t think so.

Bama helped Nick just as much as Nick helped Bama.

We’re the Kentucky(really even better but you get it) of College Football. This is still Bama.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 8:18 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5946 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:17 pm to
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Jesus Christ people get a fricking grip



I think I could say the same to people going LFG mode about the 2024 team. This is also a schedule we all thought would be incredibly difficult with Nick Saban at the helm. I think 8-4 or 9-3 is a reasonable expectation given all the headwinds.

I'm hoping and praying for more but I think people are setting themselves up for disappointment. These types of thoughts lead to people calling Paul Finebaum asking for the coach's head when they don't win the title in year 1.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 8:20 pm
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
7738 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:17 pm to
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Yea there’s not gonna be a year three if CKD can’t finish in the top 12 in either of his first two years. 8-4, 9-3 gets coaches fired at Alabama. He inherited the top program in the country. This is not a rebuilding job and if it turns into one that means we hired the wrong coach


Did you just drop down from Mars and land on your head?

We’re in the midst of an almost complete overhaul of the program minus some key missing pieces, and the task of learning new O and D systems. This year and probably a good portion of next year will be a rebuilding process.
Posted by CrimsonTider98
Member since Nov 2017
647 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:20 pm to
Why should it be a rebuilding year with all of the talent CKD inherited? I like CKD and expect him to do well here. I’m not on board with the low expectations the sunshine pumpers on this board are trying to set. Alabama fans won’t and shouldn’t accept mediocrity.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5946 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:22 pm to
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Why should it be a rebuilding year with all of the talent CKD inherited? I like CKD and expect him to do well here. I’m not on board with the low expectations the sunshine pumpers on this board are trying to set. Alabama fans won’t and shouldn’t accept mediocrity.



What you're talking about isn't "accepting mediocrity." What you're talking about involves making a mind palace to live in instead of reality with historical context.
Posted by EGO3x
Member since Oct 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:22 pm to
I don’t think you understand what rebuilding means. Coaches would kill to have the talent DeBoer is walking into.

It’s completely fair to temper expectations and I agree that’s a good way to look at it but you guys are acting like we lost our entire 2 deep.

This team was a Natty contender before Nick left. Top 3 team coming into 2024. We’ve lost 3 or 4 starters to the portal so far. That’s not enough to suddenly shift us to “rebuilding” mode.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 8:26 pm
Posted by CrimsonTider98
Member since Nov 2017
647 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:23 pm to
Next year’s team is too talented to finish 8-4. That would not be an acceptable results. The realistic expectation for next year’s team is to make the playoff. Anything more is gravy, anything less is a failure.
Posted by Bigfoot67
Member since Mar 2013
2007 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:26 pm to
Pretty sure UGA was in fairly good shape when Kirby took over and he promply lost to Vandy in Athens that first year.

I dont see that happening with CKD
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:26 pm to
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31 players to date leaving and key starters says it is a rebuilding year.


It wasn’t supposed to be. DeBoer has lost control of the players already and it’s a problem.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:29 pm to
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Why should it be a rebuilding year with all of the talent CKD inherited? I like CKD and expect him to do well here. I’m not on board with the low expectations the sunshine pumpers on this board are trying to set. Alabama fans won’t and shouldn’t accept mediocrity.


100% agree. Unfortunately I am afraid he’s going to keep losing players. Proctor was an absolute surprise today. I told you guys Downs was leaving when DeBoer didn’t put a full court press on TRob. He immediately changed his X profile to his HS stuff with no Bama.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1767 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:30 pm to
Y’all act like T Rob is the reincarnation of damn Buddy Ryan …
Posted by CrimsonTider98
Member since Nov 2017
647 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:32 pm to
The sunshine pumping and pre-emptive excuse making on this board is embarrassing. Retaining the talent on the current roster and recruiting new talent are core aspects of the job DeBoar agreed to take. It’s completely fair to judge him based on how he does in those areas.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 8:34 pm
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:35 pm to
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You put those kinds of expectations on DeBoer until we get this vehicle running straight between the lines and it’s going to confirm every caricature people have about our fanbase.


Those expectations weren’t unreasonable with what Saban left him. Unfortunately, our new coach can’t recruit,
Posted by EGO3x
Member since Oct 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:35 pm to
I’ll repeat it…Georgia lost 21 and a couple starters to the portal.

So far a bulk of that 31 were gone anyways and left before Nick retired. That’s just CFB now.

Now if we lose a lot more then I’ll be more in panic mode.

I’m expecting Keeley to transfer btw…but Russaw, Pierre and Alexander are exciting players still. Q and Koht still here.

Also no one going to notice the D line so far? Not a single departure yet. That’s huge. I’ll go knock on wood now.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:36 pm to
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Y’all act like T Rob is the reincarnation of damn Buddy Ryan …


Nope. But if I take over a store that’s running well I’m not letting the top salesman’s walk before I even get in the door. I’m calling him as soon as I am hire to tell him how excited I am to learn from him and that I will support anything he needs.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:38 pm to
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The sunshine pumping and pre-emptive excuse making on this board is embarrassing. Retaining the talent on the current roster and recruiting new talent are core aspects of the job DeBoar agreed to take. It’s completely fair to judge him based on how he does in those areas.


Unfortunately it appears our new coach is a lazy recruiter. He sectioned off the coaching staff to call all the players to try and save them while he sent their parents an email. Complete shite,
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
7738 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:40 pm to
I think I understand what rebuilding means. I coached HS FB and Bb for 30 years.
I’m not saying the sky is falling. I’m not saying we will have a losing season.
I am saying that we have lost some depth and some key players, and a new system will take some time to jell.
I am tickled with the hires and I think CKD will do a good job. But I will not hold it against him if bama goes 8-4 next year. I will not hold it against him if bama does not make the playoff.
To insinuate that we hired the wrong guy if he doesn’t do this or that by year three is unfair.
I know the cupboard is not bare, and there are still some studs on the team. I have high hopes just like you do. Maybe I’m willing to be a little more patient in getting where we all hope to be.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:40 pm to
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Now if we lose a lot more then I’ll be more in panic mode.


We are 8 days into a 30 day period and we’ve lost what 10 since then and all were starters or expected contributors. We are definitely losing more. I fear the pass rushers will start to dip next,
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1767 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:41 pm to
Whatever. I’m more excited about the new guy for the long term. And based on the story someone else shared about Downs … which shows very clearly that Daddy is driving the car as much as anyone … he was bemoaning the losses of Charles Kelly and Pete Golding as much as TRob.
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