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Bama fans, what is the true expectation for DeBoer?

Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9841 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:06 pm
Is the expectation that he has to maintain the same level of constant championship contention that Saban did?

Or is there an internal admission that nobody’s going to replicate that and that DeBoer’s the best guy to keep the program at a very high level and maybe win a title or two along the way?

Genuinely curious. What would make him a failure?
Posted by MrLahey
The Salty Ham
Member since Dec 2013
782 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:07 pm to
Two, two loss seasons is a failure
Posted by Decker
Member since Nov 2015
3435 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:07 pm to
No one expects Saban 2.0. 10 wins a year and beating AU and UT more often than not will satisfy the vast majority. Win a title and he will get a statue.
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
3038 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:07 pm to
He may take a year to get his feet under him. The SEC is a different animal and everyone will be taking their shots.
Posted by Legionfield
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2595 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:07 pm to
I guess it has to do with if he can pull guys back from the portal like Nate did. It is Alabama…so top 12? Sound reasonable?
Posted by KILGUS
Member since Aug 2014
452 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:08 pm to
Surpass Saban or bust
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28644 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:08 pm to
I just want to be top 3 in the "west," and competitive for the national title every year. To start.

I could accept 9-10 wins regular season, and better than not post-season. 7-8 win seasons i would be very impatient about.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13322 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:08 pm to
Be innovative ( he is) and just keep us in the hunt… nobody is maintaining Sabans run… going to 12 team playoffs makes it easier on a lot of teams/coaches
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
16957 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:08 pm to
Beat the boogs and butt chuggers, throw in a skull fricking of the dawgs, sec title then playoffs
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
1906 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:13 pm to
in the next 5 years I'd be fine with 3-4 10+ win seasons, 2+ trips to the playoffs, 1-2 conference championships, and maybe a natty
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 2:13 pm
Posted by ItJustMeansMore
Member since Dec 2023
746 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:13 pm to
First year? Nothing. He can do whatever.
Second year? We could be bowl eligible but I'm sure we'll be beyond that.
Third year? In the running for an SEC championship, maybe the playoffs ...

After that, who knows?

No Bama fan expects this guy to be Nick Saban. Why do non-Bama fans expect him to be Saban? To me, that's really weird.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
3182 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:16 pm to
Excellence. We expect excellence. And we shall have it.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2561 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:17 pm to
Consistently make the 12 team playoff and be in the conversation for the SEC and national championship. No expectations of winning it all every year. Same expectations other teams like Ohio St, LSU, UGA, FSU, USC, Texas, etc will have.

9-3 record rebuilding years when we lose a ton of seniors and players to the draft will be acceptable here and there. I would expect top 5-10 recruiting classes rather than top 1-3. That is the main difference in lowered expectations post Saban.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 2:27 pm
Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
Member since Aug 2009
1325 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:18 pm to
It really depends on what players he will have stay with this team. If he has a good core of returning starters and players with some experience, then I would think 9-3 would be ceiling and that may even get you into the playoffs.
If a bunch transfer out, then 8-4-7-5 would be ok the first year. Second year you want to see some improvement. .

If he can keep us in the top 10-15 recruiting, go 9-3 -10-2 with a shot a the playoffs, then that’s all we can ask for and that’s good enough for me.
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Or is there an internal admission that nobody’s going to replicate that and that DeBoer’s the best guy to keep the program at a very high level and maybe win a title or two along the way?


This, from a reasonable Bama fan
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
19120 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:20 pm to
- 10 wins
- Beat Auburn & Tennessee
- come out prepared for games (lacking the last few years)
- contend for a championship most years (if all of the above are happening, this should be easy with the 12 team playoff)
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7800 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:24 pm to

First year expectations should be lower. Who knows how the portal will play out.

After that, It's Alabama, so the expectations should be that he starts to field teams on par with what the handful of other elite programs expect. . .
Be a consistent league and national title contender.
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6516 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:30 pm to
If he can go 10-2 and sneak into the playoffs somewhat regularly and limit the bad years to 8-4 then I'd say it's a resounding success.
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