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Assuming UGA won vs Bama
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:46 am
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:46 am
Would the committee have still left out FSU?
I think they would have.
I think they would have.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:51 am to mrbroker
Would depend how much that devalued Texas' win over us.
Personally I think they vividly remembered TCU/Georgia and were terrified of getting another one of those games. Alabama's resume was elite enough they could somewhat justify our inclusion even with a loss multiple ways. I think Texas would have probably fallen into the same bucket, but with us falling to #7 or #8 their resume wouldn't be nearly as good as ours ended up.
Still think end of the day they would have put in Texas anyway for the same reason - fear of TCU part 2, but it would have been a tougher sell.
Personally I think they vividly remembered TCU/Georgia and were terrified of getting another one of those games. Alabama's resume was elite enough they could somewhat justify our inclusion even with a loss multiple ways. I think Texas would have probably fallen into the same bucket, but with us falling to #7 or #8 their resume wouldn't be nearly as good as ours ended up.
Still think end of the day they would have put in Texas anyway for the same reason - fear of TCU part 2, but it would have been a tougher sell.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 10:54 am
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:51 am to mrbroker
I don't think so. A loss would have dropped us a couple spots, and made Texas' marquee win look about the same as FSU's over LSU.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:52 am to mrbroker
That's hard to say. Texas' resume would have been a little worse; their best win would still have been Alabama, but we'd have been ranked 10th or worse. At that point you're essentially comparing an undefeated P5 champ against a one-loss P5 champ, and that might have been enough to sway the committee to keep FSU at 4.
ETA: Or what everybody else said while I was still typing. Dangit.
ETA: Or what everybody else said while I was still typing. Dangit.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 10:54 am
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:55 am to mrbroker
Yes. I think based on the way it ended up going FSU was probably done when Travis got hurt unless both Alabama and Texas lost in our respective conference championship games. FSU was team #6 in reality even though the committee was too cowardly to let anyone know about it until Sunday. They expected Louisville to win so they wouldn't have to justify it to anyone.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:59 am to SummerOfGeorge
This is exactly what I have been saying to friends / family. The committee was embarrassed by last year's Natty. They knew they couldn't allow that again, and then they get faced with an undefeated team playing a back-up QB... and not just a typical back-up, but a back-up for one of the most dynamic QBs in the NCAA. I think last year definitely played a factor in their decision.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:05 am to Crimson_Chaos
The biggest self inflicted wound the committee made was putting FSU at #5 and UGA at #6 (along with all the rankings before the last one). It opened the door for "best wasn't really what you meant" when there wasn't even a reason for it.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:08 am to SummerOfGeorge
Agreed. They really set themselves up with that decision.
I’m speculating here, but the only reason I see as to why they did that is in case FSU were to somehow beat a checked out UGA, it would be a dagger right in the heart of their logic and things would get much worse (which they will anyway if we lose and FSU wins).
I’m speculating here, but the only reason I see as to why they did that is in case FSU were to somehow beat a checked out UGA, it would be a dagger right in the heart of their logic and things would get much worse (which they will anyway if we lose and FSU wins).
Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:09 am to SummerOfGeorge
Agree completely. I think they were afraid to drop FSU all the way down to #6 though. They shouldn't have been sitting on the same rankings the last 2-3 weeks of the season. They knew that championship week was going to upset their rankings, and they weren't prepared for that.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:10 am to SummerOfGeorge
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The biggest self inflicted wound the committee made was putting FSU at #5 and UGA at #6 (along with all the rankings before the last one).
This here. The biggest mistake they made was not dropping FSU down the rankings the week following Travis going down. I think they were hoping that they’d simply lose a game and would have their work done for them. If they would have sent them down the rankings earlier, it would have made the landing a lot softer and let them know that with the injury and their schedule, things weren’t lining up.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:32 pm to mrbroker
No, FSU would have been the 4 seed and all the undefeated conference champs would be in.
If Alabama went in, Texas had to go to. They were a package deal.
If Alabama went in, Texas had to go to. They were a package deal.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:50 pm to mrbroker
I don't think so. Texas built their entire playoff case on beating Alabama. If Alabama gets in then Texas has to as well. It's the only reason they jumped from 7 all the way to 3 after beating a mediocre Ok St team.
I think FSU would have gotten the nod.
Texas took FSU's spot. Not Bama.
I think FSU would have gotten the nod.
Texas took FSU's spot. Not Bama.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 1:15 pm to mrbroker
Yes.
They were never making it once Travis got injured unless they blew put both Florida and Louisville.
It's why this entire reaction is laughable. Alabama isn't the only one that put them out; Texas did too but there isn't no venom headed their way.
They were never making it once Travis got injured unless they blew put both Florida and Louisville.
It's why this entire reaction is laughable. Alabama isn't the only one that put them out; Texas did too but there isn't no venom headed their way.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 1:24 pm to mrbroker
The only way FSU was going to go is if their back-up QB went Cardale Jones on Florida and Louisville. That didn't happen.
What if the FSUs backup went Cardale Jones and we beat Georgia? I think the committee would have selected Michigan, Washington, FSU, Alabama.
There was no way a one-loss SEC champ was getting left out.
What if the FSUs backup went Cardale Jones and we beat Georgia? I think the committee would have selected Michigan, Washington, FSU, Alabama.
There was no way a one-loss SEC champ was getting left out.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 1:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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The biggest self inflicted wound the committee made was putting FSU at #5 and UGA at #6 (along with all the rankings before the last one). It opened the door for "best wasn't really what you meant" when there wasn't even a reason for it.
It definitely would have eliminated a talking point of a lot of people criticizing the rankings.
However, I tend to agree with the committee in that they did it to quite specifically not make it 100% about best team.
Unlike Bama or Texas, UGA didn't have the resume points of a conference championship and marquee road/neutral win over another Top 6 contender.
Without those it would have made the decision 100% about best perceived team/missing star QB.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 2:17 pm
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