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re: Congrats Texas Aggies on hiring Coach Elko

Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by lsufancy63
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
796 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:05 pm to
Yes, LSU went down. Two national championships and was in another since Saban. Saban could not beat LSU and Dinardo in the mighty Independence bowl while he coached Michigan state . LSU saw potential in Saban and Saban saw potential in LSU!!
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
2846 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:08 pm to
Lots of people were favorable to promoting him in 2021 before he left. He got some in the job training and now he’s back. It could have been a much worse outcome.

I’m optimistic.
Posted by lastfan
Houston
Member since Nov 2015
7732 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:29 pm to
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Hey kid

I don’t think he’s a kid, he’s just really really stupid.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43261 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:32 pm to
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LSu went down.

3 nattys in span of 17 years. Great by any standards other than Bama.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43261 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:34 pm to
3 championships plus one runner up appearance. 03, 07, 19 + 11
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
3503 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:38 pm to
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So he hires someone who worked for Jimbo


It is hard to find any coach that didn’t work with Jimbo at some point in their career
Posted by off_season
Florida
Member since Jul 2014
1038 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:39 pm to
It's a strange decision to say the least. He's not even mediocre in a good conference. He's mediocre in a sub par conference.
Posted by Opry
Member since Oct 2023
2038 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:43 pm to
I don't like Fisher as a coach or a human. I don't believe he will be coaching at a big-time school for a long time.
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5207 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:44 pm to
Appreciate the quality post. I hope Elko is a solid hire. He seems very capable, and has had success everywhere he's been, including here. Hopefully that keeps up.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24400 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:45 pm to
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Coach Elko was not the “shiniest object” and he is not bringing a natty trophy with him to reflect on past accomplishments.


Aggie will give him a fake NC trophy.
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5207 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:47 pm to
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He's not even mediocre in a good conference. He's mediocre in a sub par conference.


It's Duke. They were 1-17 in ACC play in the two seasons before Elko took over.
Posted by off_season
Florida
Member since Jul 2014
1038 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:52 pm to
Oh I understand about the duke angle. I hope he works out for you all. I don't think it will. If they had a better record this year than his first I'd be more optimistic.

In 3-4 it's gonna be like sleepy sherm. "Man, coach elko was a good dude, the best. But we have more money than god. Somebody buy us a winner. We aren't a 8-4 program."
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5207 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:53 pm to
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The Stoops fiasco indicates to me that the inmates are running the asylum in College Station.


The only one at A&M who wasn't on the same page as everyone else was Bjork, he offered Stoops without lining up approval from University admin. Total amateur hour move by him, and ought to be a fireable offense.
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5207 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:56 pm to
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In 3-4 it's gonna be like sleepy sherm. "Man, coach elko was a good dude, the best. But we have more money than god. Somebody buy us a winner. We aren't a 8-4 program."


Maybe. That's college football. Outside of Saban and Smart there is no such thing as a sure thing. Everyone else rides the carousel, and hopes to strike gold. Is what it is.
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
2902 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:56 pm to
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The only one at A&M who wasn't on the same page as everyone else was Bjork, he offered Stoops without lining up approval from University admin. Total amateur hour move by him, and ought to be a fireable offense.




I find this extremely hard to believe. Apparently, as the Athletic Director, he believed that part of his job description was to identify and hire the next head coach of the football program. Big money stepped in and told him what to do. Spin it any way you want but that's what happened, and that should be concerning to A&M fans.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
20037 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:58 pm to
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Oh I understand about the duke angle. I hope he works out for you all. I don't think it will. If they had a better record this year than his first I'd be more optimistic.


Could be. We’ll see.

The last time a coach left Duke to go to the SEC, he had a worse record there after 2 years than Elko did.
Posted by linewar
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2021
353 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:03 pm to
From the outside, I think Bjork extending Fisher, the buyout for Fisher's firing coming from the Athletic department budget rather than boosters, the Stoops fiasco AND the Elko hire all point to one thing: the boosters run the show in College Station.

Any rational program would've sent Bjork packing along with Fisher, if not last year after the 5-7 finish. The only sensible reason he is being retained is that he does what the boosters want - to the tune of raiding his own department's coffers, no less. I'm not an Aggie hater, but come on...y'all have to be able to see this for what it is, right? This - these events and decisions - this is your program, in a nutshell.
Posted by Wellborn
Cypress, TX
Member since Oct 2014
1577 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:05 pm to
I hope more details will eventually come out, because I think we’re due an explanation, and Bjork has some major explaining to do re: how poorly this was handled. It was unacceptable.

It’s been referenced by multiple sources that he apparently wasn’t entirely upfront with his information to the higher ups throughout the process — to what degree we don’t know, which is why he needs to answer some difficult questions. The accusation is that he did some bait and switch action, prompting the late night meeting with the big guns at 9:30 on Sat night.

Regardless, it was a clusterfrick. He lacks the professionalism required for his job. Yeah, I know we were warned, Ole Miss fans. ;)
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38430 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:09 pm to
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It’s been referenced by multiple sources that he apparently wasn’t entirely upfront with his information to the higher ups throughout the process


Which is a bullshite cop out because he can't make a single decision on a final coaching move without the board's approval.

Try again. Cause that don't work.

ETA I know you guys are trying to save face. But you still look like arse clowns.
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5207 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:11 pm to
Both my assessment and yours point to the same bottom line. Bjork has failed.

Part of the ADs job is to get admin, donors, etc. On the same page. If he can't do that, then is a dead man walking.

I'd be more concerned if we had warring factions of donors that made the ADs job impossible. But by all accounts that's not what we have. The donors, university admin, and fans were all pretty much in lockstep in wanting Elko, or at least being ok with Elko. And Bjork ignored it all, and tried to force his own personal preference in a public manner, without even trying to get other stakeholders on board. That's primarily an AD failure IMO.
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