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re: The State of GA

Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:32 am to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22513 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:32 am to
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Now show us the starters each year. Especially the blue collar positions.


Oh Jesus Christ. Just accept you are wrong. Most of the team is from out of state.

Including:
Starting RB, backup RBs
3 OL
Bowers
Washington
Starting corner
Best player on defense (Carter)
Starting MLB
Starting OLB

Well over half starters are from out of state

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:43 am to
Coaches are a factor, but very small for a state like GA.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40077 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:43 am to
Ah yes. Because I distinctly remember UGA winning multiple championships before Smart arrived.
Posted by jimmarley
Southeast
Member since May 2020
1526 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:43 am to
That's why the powers that be at UGa got Kirby a jet.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25753 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Coaches are a factor, but very small for a state like GA.


You underestimate Monken.
And the brain trust Smart/Schumann/Muschamp.

Elite.
Monken got robbed on the Broyles award for the 2nd year in a row.
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
1829 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:51 am to
It also helps that Mark Richt built a very good program that Kirby then took to the next level. Saban and Heupel inherited pure dumpster fires. I’m not saying that to take away from Kirby, he’s a great coach. Always had a lot of respect for Mark Richt
Posted by tissle
Member since Jul 2009
1955 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:55 am to
quote:

It also helps that Mark Richt built a very good program that Kirby then took to the next level. Saban and Heupel inherited pure dumpster fires. I’m not saying that to take away from Kirby, he’s a great coach. Always had a lot of respect for Mark Richt


Mark Richt did lay down a solid foundation.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12684 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:55 am to
If GEORGIA Tech and Georgia State merged they could put up a football team to battle UGA
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64168 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:00 pm to
I love how "Kirby Can Recruit but he can't coach" quickly pivots to "Coaching doesn't matter and UGA recruits itself" after Kirby gets two natties.

You people.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:12 pm to
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The real reason why UGA has had a big advantage in the SEC is only in a small part because of Smart. Compare this with any state before talking about the coach at any SEC school:

1. Numerous HS recruits within the state.
2. Large population of the State
3. Competitive athletic High Schools within large metropolitan schools. Not always the case in bigger schools in some states.
4. Many Large HS within the state.
5. Majority of University enrollment are in-state students. Easy to have good athletes to stay in state with other enrollment.
6. Large number of HS coaches within the state of the most recruits support the home University.


If it has very little to do with Smart, why didn't we win much sooner? Those advantages have been evident for awhile but we never won before...well #1980.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7260 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:16 pm to
Georgia high school recruits are also the kind of players where games are won...linemen and linebackers. Loads of skill players in Texas...can't find a lineman in the state.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

If it has very little to do with Smart, why didn't we win much sooner? Those advantages have been evident for awhile but we never won before...well #1980.



1. Population of GA became increased with a minority number.
2. GT gave up football
3. AU, Clemson, TN and other out of state schools started to slip in football (check AU BB rosters).
4. In state enrollment at UGA is about 97%.
5. Kirby followed Saban with how his program is run, now NIL is a big factor.
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
826 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Georgia high school recruits are also the kind of players where games are won...linemen and linebackers.


For sure. Georgia's got the beef. Louisiana's got the speed.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

As soon as GA flipped blue they got good at football. I wonder what the poli board thinks about this.

Both were cheaters
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25753 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Population of GA became increased with a minority number.
2. GT gave up football
3. AU, Clemson, TN and other out of state schools started to slip in football (check AU BB rosters).
4. In state enrollment at UGA is about 97%.
5. Kirby followed Saban with how his program is run, now NIL is a big factor.


I read that and my take away is:

UGA has the best preferred walk on and walk on program in the country.

All of this post supports it.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

1. Population of GA became increased with a minority number.

That happened long before Kirby too over.

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2. GT gave up football

They've not really been "bad" except for the past 5 years.

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3. AU, Clemson, TN and other out of state schools started to slip in football (check AU BB rosters).

But Alabama is going bonkers....

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4. In state enrollment at UGA is about 97%.

Due to the Hope, I would think and that has been around for quite awhile. But why would that affect football?

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5. Kirby followed Saban with how his program is run, now NIL is a big factor.
That would still circle back to Kirby, wouldn't it?



I think you are stretching. Could that be because Auburn had an opening and took Gus Malzahn instead of Kirby Smart?
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
6173 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 3:02 pm to
Yes this is why Richt was fired for winning 9-10 games every season. There’s no excuse for not bringing in elite in state a talent and winning multiple national championships.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Yes this is why Richt was fired for winning 9-10 games every season. There’s no excuse for not bringing in elite in state a talent and winning multiple national championships.




People need to see what has changed the last 3-5 years. Again, the shift in the population is really a recent event. The NIL made it hard for schools who used to get their recruits paying players under the table with what today is a small amount. Richt was an honest type coach with paying players under the table. Smart didn't have to play that game the last two-three years. Everything has changed the last two years.
Posted by Pulpwood Patterson
Member since Dec 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 3:48 pm to
The state of Beorgia is much more too heavy with too 150 recruits next year and I think you’ll see UGA take many of those.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27303 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

but location of the great HS to UGA is the biggest factor. See how it was for UGA in the past


Richt had the same advantages but went w/out a SECC for 10 years and was routinely out recruited by Bama,LSU and
Florida the 2nd half of his tenure.
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