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Was Kirby the catalyst for Saban to win at bama?

Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:21 am
Posted by Mikethegreattiger
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:21 am
Ever since Kirby Smart left bama they have gone down a notch or two.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3637 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:22 am to
Nah, I think Saban is just aging. It's hard to grind like a 58 year old at 70, even for Saban. Kirby is definitely a great coach though.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:25 am to
No, there is just more fish in the pond.

UGA is doing what Alabama does. So just the existence of a second program like that is going to make it difficult.
Posted by ForTheWin81
Member since Nov 2021
762 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:29 am to
And UGA is the perfect nemesis. In the East, HUGE recruiting base, top notch campus. If I was leaving the state for an SEC school it would be UGA
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3637 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:30 am to
What you're seeing at UGA is why Saban wanted Miles to stay at LSU forever. LSU can become a juggernaut just like UGA has done with the right man in charge. We'll see if Brian Kelly is up to the task but he's certainly started out in a phenomenal direction.
Posted by The Hurricane
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:35 am to
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LSU can become a juggernaut just like UGA has done with the right man in charge. We'll see if Brian Kelly is up to the task but he's certainly started out in a phenomenal direction.

Well hopefully donors are ready to step up to compete with Georgia. $80m in facility upgrades, god knows how much they’re spending on NIL.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71432 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:35 am to
It's funny how we are always trying to find ways to discredit Saban's dominance.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:36 am to
No. However, his current OC and DC are less than desirable. Losing Cochran hurt too.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:01 am to
I mean they have won 2 National Championships since Kirby has been at Georgia. And played for another 2 I wouldn't say that Kirby was the catalyst for Saban.

Saban won before Kirby and after Kirby. Kirby has done well at Georgia and figured it out but don't slander Saban to prop up Kirby.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:07 am to
Do you use your brain at all? How many times has Saban been to NC since Kirby left? How many times did he win it? There's your answer.
Posted by agdoctor
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2004
3144 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:31 am to
Smart is beating Saban in recruiting the 2 lines. It’s the reason Bama has slipped. Notice this year Saban has to move outside the south to get quality lineman
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:33 am to
Has Saban ever said "I want Les Miles to stay at LSU"?
Posted by TooSober
AA Meeting
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:36 am to
NO
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3637 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:37 am to
Saban basically threw a hissy fit in a press conference at how wrong it was for LSU to fire Les Miles. Make no mistake, Saban LOVED having Miles at LSU.
Posted by TimmyTigah
f where u from
Member since Sep 2015
545 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:55 am to
Scott Cochran is
Posted by cajuntiger07
Down DA Bayou
Member since Jan 2009
4399 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:56 am to
Kirby learned from Saban and Kirby is still young to be hungry. Saban is fricken 70 and I would imagine is slowing down a little.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Was Kirby the catalyst for Saban to win at bama?


I would say you can probably reverse that statement. Where do you think Kirby learned to run a program? Kirby is the king right now. Saban is still the GOAT.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14551 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:01 pm to
Not IMHO. How many different coordinators has Saban won national titles with?
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16889 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:06 pm to
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Scott Cochran is


Former LSU assistant strength and conditioning coach Saban took to Alabama when he left LSU. Rumor is He has drug and alcohol issues. He left Alabama because he wanted an on field coaching job. Kirby said he would give him on. So he left Bama for UGA. Not sure Kirby actually gave him the job he wanted or his issues came back up. I do not think he is working at UGA today or he took a leave of absence.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4498 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:06 pm to
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Scott Cochran is


huge part of the change.

as old Nick trains actual coaches that learn coaching, as well as the "behind the scenes" games to be played and won, the more competitors will arise. this one happens to be close geographically and in the same conference.

NIL minimizes the recruiting games that Nick played better than anyone else.

there are a handful of reasons. i have no doubt that I am missing a few of them.
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