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re: An unlikely hero at The Alamo
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:02 am to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:02 am to Tuscaloosa
Heroes. I don’t think the Alamo gets enough attention nationally. I’m proud that’s what UT gets it’s namesake from
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:09 am to HarryBalzack
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Fitting, since they were all under the command of William Travis, from Claiborne, Alabama
Thank you for his service.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 10:48 am
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:16 am to Buster83
You are an idiot and a shame to Texas
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:27 am to Tuscaloosa
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Thank you for your service, Wild Bill.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:27 am to terriblegreen
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Why the frick isn't Jim Bowie's name on that plaque?
There were about 8 plaques. This is just one of them. Bowie, Crockett, Travis, etc. all had their names in larger font on the first plaque in the group, along with large statues outside the building.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 11:07 am
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:31 am to Buster83
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Was he not a hero?
If by hero you mean he surrendered.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:33 am to Tuscaloosa
Award-winning poster Tuscaloosa has been en fuego with finding random references to SEC Rant users lately.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:35 am to GreatPumpkin
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Heroes. I don’t think the Alamo gets enough attention nationally. I’m proud that’s what UT gets it’s namesake from
All embellished to make a good “legends” story.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:41 am to GreatPumpkin
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Heroes. I don’t think the Alamo gets enough attention nationally. I’m proud that’s what UT gets it’s namesake from
What were the issues that were driving anglos from the Mexican-held government?
How much time did it really buy Sam Houston?
Next week in American history: George Washington and never telling a lie.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:51 am to bamameister
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How much time did it really buy Sam Houston?
I think this is a point of contention among historians, but couldn’t matter any less to me. The reason the guys at the Alamo were heroes is because they came from all over the country looking for a fight, knowing they were headed there to die for the cause. They don’t make ‘em like that any more.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:00 am to GreatPumpkin
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I don’t think the Alamo gets enough attention nationally.
Odd, as historically it was the lesser event to the Goliad Massacre but over time history flipped the importance in the fight for Texas independence.
The next day, Palm Sunday, March 27, 1836, Portilla had between 425 and 445 Texians marched from Fort Defiance in three columns on the Bexar Road, San Patricio Road, and the Victoria Road, between two rows of Mexican soldiers; they were shot point blank. Wounded survivors were clubbed and knifed to death. Forty Texians were unable to walk. Thirty-nine were killed inside the fort under the direction of Captain Carolino Huerta of the Tres Villas battalion, with Colonel Garay saving one, Jack Shackelford. Fannin was the last to be executed, after seeing his men killed. He was taken by Mexican soldiers to the courtyard in front of the chapel, blindfolded, and seated in a chair. He made three requests: that his personal possessions be sent to his family, to be shot in the heart and not the face, and to be given a Christian burial. The soldiers took his belongings, shot him in the face, and burned his body along with those of the other Texians killed that day.
The Goliad massacre contributed to the frenzy of the Runaway Scrape. After the executions, the Texians' bodies were piled and burned. Their charred remains were left in the open, unburied, and exposed to vultures and coyotes. General Thomas J. Rusk found the remains of the massacre victims in June 1836 and gave orders for a formal military funeral. The remains were interred at a location southeast of the Presidio la Bahia. This has since been preserved and designated as the Fannin Memorial Monument. The location of the gravesite was forgotten until years later, when human bone fragments were discovered by a group of boys.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:01 am to Harry Morgan
quote:The circumstances of his demise are highly disputed. There were several accounts of Mexican foot soldiers that also say he died in battle.
If by hero you mean he surrendered.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:01 am to GreatPumpkin
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I’m proud that’s what UT gets it’s namesake from
Sorry, you should get your school history straight. UT calls themselves the Volunteers because of the War of 1812 when they defended New Orleans and fought the British. It had nothing to do with the Alamo. Most of the volunteers from Tennessee at the Alamo were actually leaving Tennessee in search of a better life.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:03 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
And an equal number of accounts that he surrendered.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:04 am to MullenBoys
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I be damn, and James Taylor was there, too. Probably strumming and singing "Fire and rain" to the guys.
Hello? "Mexico"
How can you identify James Taylor in the Alamo and miss that song?
James Taylor - Mexico
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:04 am to Harry Morgan
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And an equal number of accounts that he surrendered.
Who gives a shite?
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:15 am to Tuscaloosa
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The reason the guys at the Alamo were heroes is because they came from all over the country looking for a fight, knowing they were headed there to die for the cause.
Do you really believe that Davy Crockett, a noted renaissance man, in his own right, specifically went to Texas to die? This is the guy who famously withdrew from Tennessee politics and said on his way out: “You may all go to hell and I will go to Texas.”
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:18 am to bamameister
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How much time did it really buy Sam Houston?
The Battle of the Alamo definitely slowed down Santa Anna's army. But I think even more importantly, it had a huge psychological effect on the Mexican troops. Travis' army was killing off the enemy at almost a 10 to 1 ratio with less artillery and heavy guns. Then they had to March over 200 miles in a couple of weeks. By the time they got to San Jacinto, they did not have much fight left in them.
All of the troops that arrived at the Alamo thought that there were going to be many others to help fight the battle. The truly heroic thing was when they decided to stay and fight battle knowing they were so grossly outnumbered. They all knew they were probably going to die when they made the decision to stay. When given the chance, only a couple left before the battle.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 11:30 am
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:24 am to Tuscaloosa
I was there, but I was selling t-shirts.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:35 am to bamameister
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Do you really believe that Davy Crockett, a noted renaissance man, in his own right, specifically went to Texas to die? This is the guy who famously withdrew from Tennessee politics and said on his way out: “You may all go to hell and I will go to Texas.”
He absolutely by all accounts went to Texas to join the revolution, and did everything he could before he left to bring others with him. He arrived & stayed - knowing what was headed their way.
Not sure what anyone gains by trying to diminish those actions. They were nothing less than heroic.
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