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re: An unlikely hero at The Alamo
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:42 pm to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:42 pm to Tuscaloosa
It boils down to this...
The most famous and revered Tennessean of ALL TIME chose to get out of that hellhole and DIE in the scrubby hill country of Texas rather than go back.
He's a hero.
The most famous and revered Tennessean of ALL TIME chose to get out of that hellhole and DIE in the scrubby hill country of Texas rather than go back.
He's a hero.
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:47 pm to Tuscaloosa
Ah, the Disney version.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:18 pm to Harry Morgan
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Ah, the Disney version.
Whatever you say. Here’s the attention you ordered.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:20 pm to Tuscaloosa
Thanks. I’m sure John Wayne would be happy you believed in his movie.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:30 pm to Tuscaloosa
Col William Travis who was in command at the Alamo as well:
Young Travis grew up in Sparta, Alabama and while his father tended to the farming, his uncle Alexander became prominent, organizing the Old Beulah Church (among other churches), preaching in neighboring counties and nearby Evergreen, Alabama, and leaving a strong influence on young Travis.[6]
During that same time, Alexander also founded the Sparta Academy and served as its superintendent. Travis received his first formal education at the Sparta Academy, studying subjects ranging from Greek and Latin to history and mathematics. After a few years, Travis moved to the academy of Professor William H. McCurdy in Claiborne, Alabama.
After completing his education at the age of 18, Travis gained a position as an assistant teacher in Monroe County, a position he held for less than a year.[7] He met a student, Rosanna Cato, whom he immediately felt attracted to and with whom he began a romantic relationship.[8]
And the best letter ever written
Bejar, Feby. 24th. 1836
To the People of Texas & All Americans in the World-
Fellow Citizens & compatriots-
I am besieged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna - I have sustained a continual Bombardment & cannonade for 24 hours & have not lost a man - The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken - I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the walls - I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch - The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily & will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible & die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor & that of his country - Victory or Death.
William Barret Travis.
Young Travis grew up in Sparta, Alabama and while his father tended to the farming, his uncle Alexander became prominent, organizing the Old Beulah Church (among other churches), preaching in neighboring counties and nearby Evergreen, Alabama, and leaving a strong influence on young Travis.[6]
During that same time, Alexander also founded the Sparta Academy and served as its superintendent. Travis received his first formal education at the Sparta Academy, studying subjects ranging from Greek and Latin to history and mathematics. After a few years, Travis moved to the academy of Professor William H. McCurdy in Claiborne, Alabama.
After completing his education at the age of 18, Travis gained a position as an assistant teacher in Monroe County, a position he held for less than a year.[7] He met a student, Rosanna Cato, whom he immediately felt attracted to and with whom he began a romantic relationship.[8]
And the best letter ever written
Bejar, Feby. 24th. 1836
To the People of Texas & All Americans in the World-
Fellow Citizens & compatriots-
I am besieged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna - I have sustained a continual Bombardment & cannonade for 24 hours & have not lost a man - The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken - I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the walls - I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch - The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily & will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible & die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor & that of his country - Victory or Death.
William Barret Travis.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:30 pm to Harry Morgan
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you believed in his movie.
And pretty much every credible historian that has ever lived.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:31 pm to Tuscaloosa
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And pretty much every credible historian that has ever lived.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:36 pm to Harry Morgan
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Harry Morgan
You’ve provided nothing in this thread. Just snarky comments and sarcasm. Tell me why every history textbook ever written is wrong, and I’ll be happy to listen. Tell me what the History Channel got wrong, and I’ll be all ears. Tell me what Crockett got wrong in his own letters, and I’ll be fascinated. I promise.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:42 pm to Tuscaloosa
Maybe you bone up on your history a bit. There’s no proof to a lot of the myth - no line in the sand, no proof of how Crockett really died, that the defenders died for nothing in an untenable old mission.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:47 pm to Harry Morgan
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There’s no proof to a lot of the myth
What part of the myth are you even talking about? Nobody knows, because you haven’t engaged in any part of the discussion.
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no proof of how Crockett really died
Who cares?
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that the defenders died for nothing in an untenable old mission.
Who cares? They went and stayed , knowing they were about to die - because it was a cause they believed in. That’s what makes them heroes.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:52 pm to Tuscaloosa
Sadly their death didn’t help much.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:54 pm to Harry Morgan
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Sadly their death didn’t help much.
Nobody cares. That’s not why they’ve got statues, monuments, roads, cities, and buildings named after them.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:55 pm to Tuscaloosa
And?
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:00 pm to Harry Morgan
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And?
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:05 pm to Tuscaloosa
Statues. Monuments. Roads.
A slave trader dying from TB.
A young Lt. Colonel out of his depth, ignoring reports of the rapid approach of Santa Ana, holding up in a crumbling mission that could not be defended.
A slave trader dying from TB.
A young Lt. Colonel out of his depth, ignoring reports of the rapid approach of Santa Ana, holding up in a crumbling mission that could not be defended.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:10 pm to Harry Morgan
Why do you hate coonskin hats?
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:14 pm to Tuscaloosa
I don’t. As a matter of fact I’m wearing one right now. I got it when I was in kindergarten. In Tennessee.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:18 pm to Harry Morgan
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Maybe you bone up on your history a bit. There’s no proof to a lot of the myth
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:36 pm to Cheese Grits
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Odd, as historically it was the lesser event to the Goliad Massacre but over time history flipped the importance in the fight for Texas independence.
Yup, correct. A survivor of the Goliad massacre, Capt. Jack Shackelford, was a physician in Courtland AL, and formed a voluntary unit called the Red Rovers and went to help out in Texas. Most of his men were killed in the Goliad massacre, although he returned and died in Courtland. When I lived in the Decatur area and did business in Lawrence County, Courtland used to have a day commemorating Goliad and the Red Rovers. Not sure if they still do.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:00 pm to KingOfTheWorld
Would be nice if they still did. More were killed in Golliad than Alamo and pretty sure they fought to the death at the Alamo as they knew death would come anyway. They were just making the decision of how they died.
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