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Mea Culpa. I was wrong about Harsin.

Posted on 9/17/22 at 8:46 pm
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
13026 posts
Posted on 9/17/22 at 8:46 pm
I wanted Harsin to work. I wanted him to have success because I like the guy and I hated how our PTB treated him in the off-season. I craved stability and I wanted him to rise from the ashes of that situation and find success. I wanted a guy who came from outside the family and I have given him the benefit of every doubt because I felt like there was not yet enough games in his tenure to judge him. I felt like the players rallied around him and he was turning the corner albeit slowly. I felt like recruiting would come around after we corrected some mistakes and won this game and I believed that we would.

I was wrong. I hate that we’re going to go through yet another coaching change which brings with it another few seasons of not being competitive, but I’m convinced after watching the game today that we have to go in another direction. I hate that our talent is at a level that it’s at. I had hoped that wasn’t the case. There is unfortunately no upside in keeping him. He’s in way over his head. I like the guy and I wish him success at his next position, but it’s only going to prolong our demise if we keep him. What a difference a game makes.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19272 posts
Posted on 9/17/22 at 9:09 pm to
Agreed on all counts. You just can't let a 30 point blowout happen at JHS, especially to a team not named Bama or UGA. And it's not like this is his first game or first season. He's in year two and has no excuses.

The last coach to get blown out at JHS was Gene Chizik in 2012. And we know what happened to him after the season. In fact, Chizik was fired mid season according to JJ, but they wanted to wait until after the IB to make it public.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30804 posts
Posted on 9/17/22 at 9:12 pm to
30 point blowout by a school that is in the big ten with pedo charges, that killed Paterno.

Fire them all
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22962 posts
Posted on 9/17/22 at 9:53 pm to
It is not wrong to want stability. Ultimately that is what is needed to make the team competitive with the rest of the SEC. In order to have the stability, Auburn has to hire the right coach. I don't know who that is right now but it is not Bryan Harsin. I believe that he has made an effort and could find success in a less demanding conference but he is not the man for the Auburn job.
Posted by AUdime
Member since Oct 2012
838 posts
Posted on 9/17/22 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

It is not wrong to want stability.


Yep. Nothing "wrong" with wanting a coach to succeed. If Harsin had succeeded, then Auburn would have succeeded. Hell I hoped he would succeed for that very reason. But today was pretty objective proof that's not gonna happen. Either get a bunch of talent or coach up what you have. Preferably both. But he isn't doing either.
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
3415 posts
Posted on 9/17/22 at 11:05 pm to
I wanted him to work out also but after today's showing, I don't think he will succeed at all unless he comes out and wins a lot of the games left on the schedule. We have some major problems that should have been cleared up but haven't. I don't think they will be cleaned up in a year so it is time...
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
3585 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:49 am to
The same here. I do still believe, however, that he is a good coach and will do well somewhere. He never really fit in here and the PTB have essentially poisoned the well and ensured he will never succeed here. I think their actions irreparably hurt his recruiting ability and eroded the respect of his players. Why play hard for a coach living on borrowed time?

He hasn't helped his own cause either, though. There's been no improvement with the OL or at QB and the defense has regressed.

I think he needs to go immediately. It's the only way to stop the bleeding.
Posted by WarCamEagle
Member since Jun 2011
2227 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:53 am to
Harsin was at Boise State for 7 years.

His best year was his first season where he finished ranked 16.

He had six more seasons and never finished top 20. Not sure what we saw here
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17674 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:01 am to
Why are there people that still believe he is a good coach? I don’t get it. Coach gives his best player 9 carries and leans on the passing game with the worst QB in the SEC. I just don’t understand how a rational person that knows anything about football can think this.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 11:02 am
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8943 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Mea Culpa. I was wrong about Harsin.



I wanted to wait and see. Not fire him at the first sign of adversity. But I haven't seen the first sign of improvement, anywhere in the program. Point to one thing that has improved so far.

Hard to justify that there is a future of anything but pain under Harsin.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
3585 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 1:10 pm to
So, it's more fair to judge him for his just more than 1 season here than by having the 3rd best winning % in the country he had at Boise?
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
13026 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

I do still believe, however, that he is a good coach and will do well somewhere


Agreed. I like the guy and I’ll be pulling for him at his next stop. I was naive in thinking that he could promote guys he trusts to run the offense and defense after being burned by a couple of bad hires. Unfortunately that just compounded the problem. He just doesn’t have the network here to hire competent coordinators and recruiters who can navigate the shark infested waters of the SEC.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 7:48 pm
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
12112 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:48 pm to
I’d still love to know what really happened with the Austin Davis debacle
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69932 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

So, it's more fair to judge him for his just more than 1 season here than by having the 3rd best winning % in the country he had at Boise?



I don’t think so. It’s just a bad fit here. It always was. He will do fine somewhere without the recruiting needs and not at a place that wants and needs fast expectations.

Good guy probably. Maybe a little dry but he is just not ready for this particular job.

Hell, I am mot sure anyone is.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50756 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:08 pm to
What he has done in the past is irrelevant to the now. He is currently 1-6 against his last 7 FBS opponents. The lone win was San Jose State which was less than convincing.


I wish people would quit pretending like I should give a damn about his record at Boise.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50756 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:09 pm to
Thamel has the Harsin name on the Arizona State long list.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
9573 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:13 pm to
You could see this coming months ago with the exodus of Derek Mason, two offensive coordinators, our starting QB, our best WR, and a total faceplant in the portal. To top all of that off, the PTB tried to destroy him because they saw the disaster unfolding.

You had to be a true Auburn sunshine pumper to think this was going to work out.
Posted by Lee County Tiger
I Haz Sources
Member since Oct 2009
33357 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

jangalang
Thamel has the Harsin name on the Arizona State long list.


Called. That. shite.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
13026 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

You had to be a true Auburn sunshine pumper to think this was going to work out.


Yeah I just didn’t want to see it, honestly. I like the guy and I’m a sucker to pull for the underdog. But you’re right, he’s over his head.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17674 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:59 pm to
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love to know what really happened with the Austin Davis debacle


The story I heard is Harsin hired the guy and he had no college coaching or recruiting experience. He had trouble getting started recruiting because he had no experience. He asked Harsin for help and Harsin cussed him out and berated him for not knowing what he was doing. Then Davis said see you later, I’m out.
Then Harsin gets word out he would have had to fire him if he didn’t quit because he couldn’t do the job.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 9:01 pm
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