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ESPN - College Football's Position U 2022 (1998-2022)

Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:43 am
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:43 am
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Here's how it works:

We're counting players since 1998 only. Why 1998? It seemed a good breaking point, as it was the start of the BCS era that best represents modern college football. We know Notre Dame would love to claim Paul Hornung in the race for, um, Halfback U, but we're trying to keep it to the era of players today's recruits might be most familiar with.

What counts as success? We narrowed it down to a few key categories. Schools got points for all-conference and All-America selections, along with points for being drafted (weighted by round) and for success at the next level. For that last category, we looked at only the first four years of a player's career (beyond that, the NFL should get credit for development) using Pro Football Reference's weighted career value.

Dealing with transfers is tricky, too. When Jordan Addison gets drafted next year, will he count for Pitt or USC? Sorry to add some more salt to the wounds for Panthers fans, but we've made the call that NFL data counts only toward the school a player last suited up for.


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QBU is Oklahoma

Oklahoma remains QBU for the third straight year, but the Sooners are now treading into uncharted waters. Spencer Rattler and Caleb Williams have both transferred, and Lincoln Riley -- the QB whisperer who helped build Oklahoma into QBU -- is off to USC (which, it should be noted, is a close second on this list). Will Dillon Gabriel add to Oklahoma's long tradition of elite QBs? Can Brent Venables keep recruiting future stars? Or will Riley not only stun the Sooners' fan base by leaving but also by stealing their crown as the top producer of quarterback talent?

The top 5

1. Oklahoma
2. USC
3. Oregon
4. Alabama
5. Louisville

Best by conference

ACC: Louisville
Big 12: Oklahoma
Big Ten: Ohio State
Pac-12: USC
SEC: Alabama
Non-Power 5: Fresno State


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RBU is Alabama

It's tough to argue with the numbers here. Since 2011, 10 Tide running backs have been selected in the first three rounds of the NFL draft, including Brian Robinson Jr. in the 2022 draft. Two have won Heisman trophies. Four of the NFL's top 15 rushers in 2021 came from Alabama. And because Nick Saban isn't interested in resting on his laurels, he went out and brought in Georgia Tech transfer Jahmyr Gibbs this offseason, adding arguably the most dynamic running back in the country to the mix for 2022.

The top 5

1. Alabama
2. Wisconsin
3. LSU
4. Miami
5. Oklahoma

Best by conference

ACC: Miami
Big 12: Oklahoma
Big Ten: Wisconsin
Pac-12: Oregon
SEC: Alabama
Non-Power 5: Memphis


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WRU is USC

Even in a down year when the coach was fired and the offense struggled, USC managed to produce a star at receiver, with Drake London selected eighth overall in this year's NFL draft. USC's lead over LSU and Alabama -- two schools producing a torrent of top receiver talent lately -- actually grew from 2021 as recent draftees Amon-Ra St. Brown and Michael Pittman blossomed in the NFL. Now add Lincoln Riley's dynamic offense to the mix -- alongside defending Biletnikoff winner Jordan Addison, who transferred from Pitt this offseason -- and odds are, the Trojans will be hanging on to the top spot for the foreseeable future.

The top 5

1. USC
2. LSU
3. Alabama
4. Oklahoma
5. Ohio State

Best by conference

ACC: Florida State (No. 7)
Big 12: Oklahoma
Big Ten: Ohio State
Pac-12: USC
SEC: LSU
Non-Power 5: Western Michigan (No. 19)


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TEU is Miami

Sure, other schools have made a recent run at this honor -- from Iowa to Stanford to UCLA. But even if Miami hasn't produced anyone of the caliber of George Kittle in recent years, the run of talent at this position remains impressive. The Canes have had 13 tight ends drafted since 2000, including first-rounders Bubba Franks, Jeremy Shockey, Kellen Winslow, Greg Olsen and David Njoku. Will Mallory could be the next breakout star this season, or perhaps blue-chip 2022 signee Jaleel Skinner bursts onto the scene. Regardless, Miami's position as Tight End U isn't in doubt for the foreseeable future.

The top 5

1. Miami
2. Iowa
3. Stanford
4. Florida
5. Missouri

Best by conference

ACC: Miami
Big 12: Oklahoma (No. 8)
Big Ten: Iowa
Pac-12: Stanford
SEC: Florida
Non-Power 5: BYU (No. 14)


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OLU is Alabama

And we're back to hyping Alabama, which tops our offensive line rankings after putting yet another big man into the first round, as Evan Neal went seventh overall in the 2022 draft. In fact, the Tide have seen an O-lineman selected among the first 34 picks in the draft in six of the past seven years. Overall, 20 offensive linemen have heard their names called in the NFL draft since Saban took over in 2007. It's even more impressive that Alabama has been so good on the offensive line, given that it's an area typically dominated by the Big Ten, which has four of the top eight schools in our rankings.

The top 5

1. Alabama
2. Wisconsin
3. Ohio State
4. Oklahoma
5. Michigan

Best by conference

ACC: Florida State (No. 11)
Big 12: Oklahoma
Big Ten: Wisconsin
Pac-12: USC (No. 7)
SEC: Alabama
Non-Power 5: Boise State (No. 23)
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75885 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:43 am to
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DLU is Alabama

Yawn. Another category dominated by the Tide. It's not as if they're primarily a 3-4 defense that should be at a disadvantage in this category as a result and -- oh, right, they are. Alas, Alabama has been particularly adept at developing NFL talent on the interior of late, with a defensive tackle going in either the first or second round of every NFL draft since 2016. In fact, Alabama is responsible for nearly 30% of all the defensive tackles taken in the first two rounds of the past seven NFL drafts. That's downright incredible. Oh, and the Tide haven't been too bad at developing ends either.

The top 5

1. Alabama
2. Florida State
3. Ohio State
4. Penn State
5. Clemson

Best by conference

ACC: Florida State
Big 12: Texas
Big Ten: Ohio State
Pac-12: USC (No. 8)
SEC: Alabama
Non-Power 5: Houston (No. 34)


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LBU is Georgia

The disrespect to Nakobe Dean -- the star linebacker at LBU -- was immense. Dean dropped all the way to the third round (No. 83 overall), where the Philadelphia Eagles nabbed him. Regardless, Georgia easily retains its crown atop our linebacker rankings. It has been a heck of a run for the Bulldogs, who've had 15 linebackers drafted, including five in the first round -- in the past decade. Georgia has had 15 All-SEC linebackers since 1998 and seven All-Americans. Alabama (eight All-Americans, including returning star Will Anderson) and Ohio State (19 All-Big Ten selections) are within striking distance, but the path to LBU figures to run through Athens for a while.

The top 5

1. Georgia
2. Alabama
3. Ohio State
4. Penn State
5. USC

Best by conference

ACC: Clemson (No. 8)
Big 12: Oklahoma
Big Ten: Ohio State
Pac-12: USC
SEC: Georgia
Non-Power 5: Temple (No. 36)


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DBU is Ohio State

The Buckeyes cling to the top spot by just a fraction of a point over LSU. For all the Position U discussions, this might be the most fun debate. Derek Stingley Jr. was the third overall selection in this year's draft, moving LSU up the rankings. The Tigers have seen eight DBs selected in the first three rounds of the past six drafts. The Buckeyes, meanwhile, have had a whopping 31 All-Big Ten DBs since 1998, but just one DB has been drafted in the past two years. Even beyond the top two teams, there's plenty more intrigue down the rankings, as Florida, Miami and Florida State rank 4-5-6, respectively, making for some nice in-state hostilities.

The top 5

1. Ohio State
2. LSU
3. Alabama
4. Florida
5. Miami

Best by conference

ACC: Miami
Big 12: Texas
Big Ten: Ohio State
Pac-12: USC
SEC: LSU
Non-Power 5: UCF (No. 26)


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Kicker U is Florida State

The Seminoles retain the top spot for good reason, given their long history of great kickers. The problem, however, is it has been a while since FSU had a good one. They're just 32-of-51 (63%) on field goals in the past four seasons.

The top 5

1. Florida State
2. UCLA
3. Iowa
4. Utah
5. Ohio State


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Punter U is Texas A&M

The Aggies have taken the Punter U crown each of the past two years, thanks in large part to star Braden Mann, who was a sixth-round draft pick by the punt-first Jets. Still, Utah and Tennessee remain hot on the Aggies' trail. We still doubt that's enough to get fans to start rooting against going for it on fourth down.

The top 5

1. Texas A&M
2. Utah
3. Tennessee
4. Cal
5. Georgia Tech
Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5385 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:46 am to
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Punter U is Texas A&M

Don’t forget it
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
23251 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:47 am to
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TEU

Best by conference

SEC: Florida

These guys have a killer TE room



Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:49 am to
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Punter U is Texas A&M


Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9839 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:53 am to
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LBU is Georgia


Hell, even the guys we had that weren’t big NFL guys at LB have been studs. Rennie Curran and Monty Rice were outstanding.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36644 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:54 am to
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DBU is Ohio State

The top 5

1. Ohio State
2. LSU
3. Alabama
4. Florida
5. Miami


This has to be wrong. I was assured that Texas is DBU.
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
13321 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:54 am to
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DBU is Ohio State


Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36644 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:57 am to
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DLU is Alabama


No slight to Alabama, but it is absolutely criminal how far LSU has slid over the past 10 years in respect to developing defensive linemen.

Les was supposed to be an offensive line coach. He lacked severely. Orgeron was supposed to be a defensive line coach. He lacked slightly less severely.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12412 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:13 am to
WRU and DBU should be LSU, especially WRU.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25082 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:21 am to
I know others like to focus on mediocre QB play at LSU under Miles and Orgeron, and there is certainly a lot to talk about there, but the trenches are really where we’ve lost so much ground.

It stings even worse when, to your point, both of those coaches were supposed to be line guys.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8445 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:28 am to
LOL at including all-conference honors in this formula- really gives teams like Ohio state and USC a bump because their conferences are way less talented than the SEC.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37586 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:45 am to
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The Tigers have seen eight DBs selected in the first three rounds of the past six drafts. The Buckeyes, meanwhile, have had a whopping 31 All-Big Ten DBs since 1998, but just one DB has been drafted in the past two years.


Shouldn’t this hurt tOSU? It’s not our fault there is a complete and total lack of DV talent in the big ten
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
6926 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:48 am to
State could be an honorable mention DLU for Quality > Quantity:

Fletcher Cox
Preston Smith
Jeffery Simmons
Montez Sweat
Chris Jones
Denico Autry

All within the last 10 years
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 11:52 am
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:48 am to
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WRU and DBU should be LSU, especially WRU.


Yep, the formula is a joke. Anyone paying attention to the NFL with Chase/Jefferson knows who WRU is now.
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2126 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:56 am to
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RBU is Alabama

It's tough to argue with the numbers here. Since 2011, 10 Tide running backs have been selected in the first three rounds of the NFL draft, including Brian Robinson Jr. in the 2022 draft. Two have won Heisman trophies. Four of the NFL's top 15 rushers in 2021 came from Alabama. And because Nick Saban isn't interested in resting on his laurels, he went out and brought in Georgia Tech transfer Jahmyr Gibbs this offseason, adding arguably the most dynamic running back in the country to the mix for 2022.

The top 5

1. Alabama
2. Wisconsin
3. LSU
4. Miami
5. Oklahoma


Justice Haynes is a smart man
Posted by MOJO_ERASER
Tulsa Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2017
5839 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:59 am to
Don’t know how you call Bama OLU when 4 all pros who went to college at OU are four of the highest paid players at their positions in the nfl
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72256 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:07 pm to
Probably because Alabama has 12 former OL in the NFL to Oklahoma’s 6.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75885 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:23 pm to
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Anyone paying attention to the NFL with Chase/Jefferson knows who WRU is now.


Did you not read the criteria for the timeframe?
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
7188 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:39 pm to
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DBU is Ohio State


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