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re: Why does Freeze get a chance but Briles still takes heat?
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:59 am to Insurancerebel
Posted on 3/2/22 at 8:59 am to Insurancerebel
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Is it really a open relationship if the wife didn't know? asking for a friend
She knew bud
Posted on 3/2/22 at 9:01 am to REBEL5 AC
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She knew bud
It had to be like Bezos and Gates relationships. All the rumors were, just don’t make me look stupid and get caught in public. They all got caught with their dicks out in public.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 9:23 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
Facilitated rape huh? Do you know what that word mean?
Posted on 3/2/22 at 9:46 am to momentoftruth87
Both are shitty humans. Freeze just laid all his sins at the foot of the cross and went on a speaking tour to make things right, which plays really well with southern folks already predispositioned to give guys like him another chance. Briles has basically been invisible. Also, RAPE.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 9:56 am to SidewalkTiger
Bro why are you defending Art Briles? His situation is well documented. I’m starting to see why everyone else in the rant shittes all over you. Stop making the rest of us LSU fans look bad!
Posted on 3/2/22 at 10:23 am to momentoftruth87
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Briles raped someone? Who?
Oh CRAP!!! I said Briles raped someone!
Wait... I... hold on... Nope. I don't think I said that. Let me check again. Nope. Triple check... Again nope.
Do a little research and get back to us. Maybe google "Briles" and "rape".
Posted on 3/2/22 at 10:30 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:It depends on how ugly the hooker is.
The appearance of rape, and covering it up, is worse than buying and having sex with hookers.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 11:04 am to HotRock
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There were some convictions and he knew about it early on and did nothing. He was given details and players names. Scapegoat? Did they get everyone that covered it up? No, but he does not he gets a pass. frick him and anyone that belittles rape and what it does to its victims.
Tevin Elliott was the first player alleged to have committed sexual assault on two women in 2012. When the allegations came to light, he was immediately suspended. Once he was charged, he was kicked off the football team. He was ultimately convicted and sentenced to 20 years in prison.
Sam Ukwuachu transferred to Baylor before the 2013 season. He had previously had issues with domestic assault at Boise St. He was never part of the active roster at Baylor and never played in a game. In October of that season, he sexually assaulted a girl. He was indicted, and the school investigated. The schools investigation was shoddy. He was ultimately convicted and sentenced to 180 days to serve in jail, 10 years of probation, 400 hours of community service, and was required to register as a sex offender. The verdict has been overturned and reinstated multiple times. But he never actually played football for Baylor.
Shawn Oakman was alleged to have assaulted a girl in 2016. He was no longer on the Baylor football team at that point. He was ultimately acquitted by a jury in 2019. Even though he was acquitted by a jury of his peers, his football career was ruined when had been projected as a 1st round pick prior.
The gang rape allegation has never directly tied Briles to it. They have alleged the allegations were reported to the school and they never diligently investigated the allegations.
I'm not saying Briles is completely innocent in all of this, but I do think he has been made the primary scapegoat for most of it, somewhat unfairly, due to him being the face of the football program. To me, it appears the University, the Title IX office, and the judiciary board dropped the ball biggly hoping everything would go away until the indictments started to come out. I think Briles' biggest issue was not intervening personally and leaving it to the rest of the university to handle and investigate. And fwiw, the only one of those allegations was ever substantiated. A Baylor volleyball player received a settlement for the lawsuit she filed. The investigation actually would end up showing the football program officials having a minor role in all of this but it was the University officials who were the real culprits. That investigation showed that the university essentially ignored Title IX for years until shite hit the fan. That isn't on Briles and why Briles has never been found personally liable for anything.
Documents later produced under subpoena showed Briles did not fail to report and did not discourage victims from reporting instances of domestic/sexual abuse and that it was senior Baylor administrators who had systematically failed for decades. Baylor's own attorneys admitted to this long after Briles and a slew of others had been fired. There were also reports of local Waco police burying reports and Briles never being made aware of them.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 11:07 am
Posted on 3/2/22 at 11:27 am to momentoftruth87
Real Answer: Lots of people believe the god awful but unproven allegations are consistent enough with the also awful uncontested facts to justify a permanent blacklisting.
the vast majority of the reporting during the scandal was not remotely concerned with providing Baylor or Briles the benefit of the doubt, and in order to save itself Baylor chose not to defend Briles, their AD, or their President. They were all sacrificed. We will never truly know to what extent this was justified because most of the accusations that went to court were civil claims against the school that were settled and the details of the settlements are not public.
at this point, the veracity of the claim that Briles is the worst is no longer being evaluated. His name comes up and the pitchforks come out.
the vast majority of the reporting during the scandal was not remotely concerned with providing Baylor or Briles the benefit of the doubt, and in order to save itself Baylor chose not to defend Briles, their AD, or their President. They were all sacrificed. We will never truly know to what extent this was justified because most of the accusations that went to court were civil claims against the school that were settled and the details of the settlements are not public.
at this point, the veracity of the claim that Briles is the worst is no longer being evaluated. His name comes up and the pitchforks come out.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 11:49 am to PeleofAnalytics
Rape? What rape? Baylor found no cause existed and paid Briles his full contract. The NCAA cleared the man and found not even one instance where he had prior knowledge that a player had sexually assaulted someone at Baylor and did anything to suppress the information.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 11:55 am to HotRock
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Why does Freeze get a chance but Briles still takes heat?
Appearance of rape. Are you serious? There was multiple gang rapes reported. One was a trainer and he was given names. Nothing happened to them but the trainer was removed from her duties. I am not talking about one dude here accused gang rape. 10 to 15 of his players were accused of gang rape in just one incident.
There were some convictions and he knew about it early on and did nothing. He was given details and players names. Scapegoat? Did they get everyone that covered it up? No, but he does not he gets a pass. frick him and anyone that belittles rape and what it does to its victims.
You don't have a clue of what you are talking about. Go ahead.... show where any of this is true.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 11:59 am to momentoftruth87
One bought whores for the team. The other provided female students
Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:03 pm to ColoradoAg
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Why does Freeze get a chance but Briles still takes heat?
One bought whores for the team. The other provided female students
That didn't happen either.
Think about this... there is proof that "escorts" were provided for recruits at Louisville, but Pitino is still coaching and about to be in a Power 5 job again.
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Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:24 pm to REBEL5 AC
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the other has an open relationship with his wife.
That's an interesting way to say "sleeps around on his wife with hookers and brings in prostitutes for his players/recruits".
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:13 pm to Nitro Express
This is a long but accurate timeline of the whole Briles/Baylor situation. Decide for yourself.
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Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:19 pm to Tideroller
Dear God is that damning ...
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:22 pm to momentoftruth87
Freeze is much more cringy
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:28 pm to Tideroller
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This is a long but accurate timeline of the whole Briles/Baylor situation. Decide for yourself.
That is the espn hit piece.
How is this different than Saban giving Jonathon Taylor a scholarship?
How does that change this?
1. 3 players total arrested for inappropriate behavior off campus. One found not guilty.
2. Only 1 of the two convicted of a crime actually played a snap for the Baylor football team.
3. Zero evidence that Briles did anything whatsoever to cover up any player conduct.
4. Cleared by NCAA
5. Cleared by Baylor and was paid full contract due to there being no evidence to warrant a firing for cause?
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:32 pm to AU9377
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Rape? What rape? Baylor found no cause existed and paid Briles his full contract. The NCAA cleared the man and found not even one instance where he had prior knowledge that a player had sexually assaulted someone at Baylor and did anything to suppress the information.
You mean the NCAA, who has almost zero authority on the matter or subpoena power to do a real investigation, "could not conclude that Baylor or Briles violated NCAA rules by failing to report allegations of sexual and interpersonal violence committed on the campus" means he was "cleared". Okay
And do you mean Baylor didn't want a legal fight with Briles over his contract where they would have to go to trial and Baylor officials would have to answer questions under oath if they don't have to? Color me shocked!!!! His buyout was $15 million. That is a freaking great deal if you don't want to air more dirty laundry than has already been aired.
Well they did fire him based off of a report from the Pepper Hamilton law firm. Here is a bit of that report:
"In addition to broader University failings, Pepper found specific failings within both the football program and Athletics Department leadership, including a failure to identify and respond to a pattern of sexual violence by a football player, to take action in response to reports of a sexual assault by multiple football players, and to take action in response to a report of dating violence. Pepper’s findings also reflect significant concerns about the tone and culture within Baylor’s football program as it relates to accountability for all forms of athlete misconduct."
But that doesn't sound like it is the fault of Briles. Sounds like this is all a witch hunt.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:51 pm to Tideroller
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This is a long but accurate timeline of the whole Briles/Baylor situation. Decide for yourself.
Accurate? See the way I see things is ESPN is at the root of blackballing Art Briles because ESPN is a SJW network that demonizes White men and places the most irresponsible and foolish Black men on a pedestal. Mind you, Black men who are responsible leaders aren't supported by ESPN.
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