re: If The GOBN Wins The Tug of War, Who Will They Hire?

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None of this matters as our shitty admin and boosters just ruin coaches here

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Give examples please? Other then jetgate and most of the players in that except Rane are gone. Lowder doesn't have the money nor the influence he used to have. He lost his arse off in the banking crash.

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Hugh Freeze also got 27 of his wins vacated and Ole Miss put on probation.

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Yes, I think everyone is aware of that. Is your argument that he'd do the same thing again?

This is a situation where Ole Miss basically got punished for his first offense, and you have the possibility of picking up the smarter version of the same coach who was making so much noise there that Saban had to send the NCAA after him. His violations are worse than Bruce Pearl's, but it's not really any different a concept.

Freeze's violations:

Paying players - basically legal now; if anything he seems to already be proven in succeeding at this game.
Hookers - he'd have to be the dumbest person on the planet to do anything like that again, so much so that it's a stretch to not give him the common sense benefit of the doubt.

I also find it hard to believe that Auburn is the only university that has “Jetgated” a coach.

Most of them start having those behind the scenes talks when the coach’s seat is flaming.

Auburn just got caught doing what most all of them do anyways.

I like Lane, but I don’t like that his name is seemingly up for every job.

Dealing with that every year would be aggravating.

I'm not a fan of Freeze or Steele, seems to create the potential of another Gus regime. A lot of inconsistency and a bunch of 8 win seasons. I say we go full on Arkansas and hire Dell McGee. He can recruit and I believe we can rally the fanbase behind him. We should be able to get him a lot cheaper than Freeze. Plus it'll be some good national PR and we need it badly, right now!

The only real downside, I see, is he will need some good coordinators.

Houston Nutt had as many top 25 teams as Hugh freeze and did it in less seasons after also taking over a bad situation.

Hough Freeze had all those good classes and STILL his best season was just 10-3 with a loss to Memphis (lol). Is 10-3 worth having your program decimated by sanctions like Ole Miss was?

He had a possible 1st round QB and went out and lost to Louisiana Monroe this year.

If this dude hadn’t beat Bama, nobody here even cares. But, just like we held onto Gus for years too long because we beat Bama, we want to Hire Hugh freeze with our highest aspirations set at beating Bama.

If Hugh Freeze is so good why is he available in February as our panic button option? Are we just so smart as a program that we see something in him that nobody else sees.

Hugh Freeze is not terrible, but he’s incredibly overrated. He did much more bad for Ole Miss program than good, and just went 8-5 with a potential first round QB.

I like Freeze offense it's basically Malzahn with more passing. Outside of that I see no upside to Freeze.

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I still want Garner.

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I’m starting to think that Rodney is our best option.

Pros:
- Popular with the GOB/Pat Dye contingent that still calls the shots
- History of solid recruiting
- Won’t ever be in the mix for other jobs
- Has sent dozens of guys to the NFL over his coaching career
- Reputation for being a players’ coach
- Modest contract demands

Cons:
- No head coaching experience
- Shady past
- Will be seen as tool of the PTBs

For me the pros far outweigh the cons.

I’ve completely given up on AU ever allowing a football HC or an AD to operate the program his/her own way without interference from the rich and powerful. Harsin and Greene were our only real attempt at that, and it’s pretty clear they were either undermined from the beginning or not really up to the task (likely a combination of both).

Might as well go “All In”. Worst case scenario, Garner is Matt Luke, and leaves us with a good foundation in 3-4 years so we can bring in someone who can really lead a program. Best case, he’s Sam Pittman, turns things around quickly and is loved by the AU faithful.

Either way, he’s probably the best we can expect.

I would pick Garner over Steele if it was those two. I think Garner would be better at running a team and getting a staff that could build up our talent.

And, Coach helps with outside appearance of all this. Be very hard for the press to go hard on Auburn after hiring the first black football head coach.

We’ve had success with not splash hires. The issue is always that they don’t handle the success well.

I didn't think I would ever say this but at this point you might have to go with Garner. You know he's going to recruit and bring in the players that can hang with Bama and Georgia. You can try to outcoach those two all you want but it's the talent that separates them from everyone else.