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Posted on 2/8/22 at 9:43 pm to TTsTowel
Yeah, I can see that but I can also see them using leaks and slander to get out and that is my biggest argument and source of anger in this whole thing. Harsin didn’t deserve that for being hard headed.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 9:44 pm to TTsTowel
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From a well known Auburn poster.
That has Mason all over it. Sounds like they dug deeper hoping to find something heavier than a-hole and prick and realizing they are stuck with a-hole and prick.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 9:45 pm to Skyler97
If Harsin thinks he did nothing wrong then he will absolutely dig his heels in. The question could become does Harsin have a firm grasp on what could be legally considered misconduct and his he willing to listen to legal counsel telling him he messed up?
I would think he would on the latter and this ends up as a settlement but it needs to be resolved soon. If it’s true they wanted it to let the investigation run it’s course then they should have kept it under wraps until then. Not leak that the BOT were meeting to discuss his future.
I would think he would on the latter and this ends up as a settlement but it needs to be resolved soon. If it’s true they wanted it to let the investigation run it’s course then they should have kept it under wraps until then. Not leak that the BOT were meeting to discuss his future.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 9:47 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I don’t think we will ever give anyone full control
I don’t either, at least not right off the bat. It would take a Saban/Smart level hire to give full control off rip and we will never draw a coach that established.
It’s going to take someone like Pearl that comes in and plays ball with them, then produces and creates his own leverage.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 9:49 pm to AA7
If Bryan Harsin wants to dig his heels in, Auburn fires him and releases everything that was discovered during the investigation.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 9:50 pm to AA7
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The question could become does Harsin have a firm grasp on what could be legally considered misconduct and his he willing to listen to legal counsel telling him he messed up?
I just feel like if auburn has ANYTHING on him that they think would stick, they fire him. I don’t see auburn giving him a buyout JUST to help him save face. That benefits nobody besides Harsin.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 10:01 pm to Skyler97
If you fire him you have to know that it will stick. Leach locked a kid in a storage shed what seems like an eternity ago and that was just recently resolved. These cases last a long time.
At this point though I just want some resolution. I can’t imagine he stays on but we need to move on from this.
At this point though I just want some resolution. I can’t imagine he stays on but we need to move on from this.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 10:15 pm to AA7
,The Leach case is an interesting comparison….because that case drug out for what, 11-12 years?
By the time it was all settled, no one even really remembers anything about it. No one thinks of Texas Tech anymore as the school that fired Leach.
Could be Auburn’s long game plan.
By the time it was all settled, no one even really remembers anything about it. No one thinks of Texas Tech anymore as the school that fired Leach.
Could be Auburn’s long game plan.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 10:16 pm to AA7
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I don’t either, at least not right off the bat. It would take a Saban/Smart level hire to give full control off rip and we will never draw a coach that established
You do know that this was the sticking point as to why Smart wasn’t given the job after Chiz got fired. I still remember the breaking news that he was Auburns guy and I recall coach Dye going on Finebaum excited at the idea of him being the next coach. Instead we got hash brown Gus and Smart went and turned UGA into a juggernaut.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 10:36 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Yes, but I have a feeling he would have bolted for Uga when it came open. Would have been at Auburn for only like 2 years maybe.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 11:36 pm to AA7
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Leach locked a kid in a storage shed what seems like an eternity ago and that was just recently resolved.
What was the resolution? I see nothing online about it. I know Leach sued Craig James and ESPN for slander, but it was dismissed years ago. I know he's been in a constant battle with TTU but I can't find anything about a resolution.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 11:50 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Yes, but I have a feeling he would have bolted for Uga when it came open. Would have been at Auburn for only like 2 years maybe.
Anything is possible but I feel pretty confident he would have left us in much better shape than Chiz or Gus left us.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:03 am to TTsTowel
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If Bryan Harsin wants to dig his heels in, Auburn fires him and releases everything that was discovered during the investigation.
People say this is a unique situation that's going on in Auburn, but honestly it is very similar to the Beaty vs. Kansas situation in 2018. It was quite the drama, but it didn't make national headlines because no one gives a shite about KU football because their team is 1-11 about every year.
Basically AD Long (of Petrino fame) was the Kansas AD and he decided to fire Beaty because he was friends with Less Miles and wanted Miles to take over. So he axes Beaty and Beaty is like "Cool, pay me my $3 mil buyout." Long said "Ok bro, we gotcha." Well a short while later Kansas reneged on their promise and said "There's a problem, we dug up a Level II NCAA violation and we ain't paying you a dime, brother."
Beaty filed a lawsuit saying a Level II offense does not rise to the level of "serious and repeated" violations that his contract outlines. He contended that if he was winning more such a minor violation would have been self-reported and that would have been the end of it. In other words, they were really firing him for "bad football" but wanted to tarnish him to get out of the buy-out. In his lawsuit he actually said, "Kansas was trying to find a dead hooker in my closet."
Well, because of the lawsuit there was motion for discovery as well as forced depositions of various KU brass. During those depositions embarrassing shite came out about KU. Eventually KU said "Aight, enough, we will settle out of court with you." So they came to the table and ended up agreeing to pay him almost his full buy-out (2.5 of the 3 mil).
So, yeah, Auburn better have something rock solid. If Harsin feels they are "looking for dead hookers in his closet" he will fight them tooth and nail. And it did NOT work out for KU. They got exposed and ended up paying the whole thing in the end.
As a side-note. Les Miles ended up failing there because his sexual stuff at LSU hit the media. Jeff Long was forced to fire him over it and then KU fired Long the next day.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 4:36 am to AUstar
just gonna pop in here mostly so I’m in the thread
but also, Hoke 1) gets big mad over dumb things, holy cow what homer, and 2) either clearly has this “big booster boogeyman” image in his head that tilts literally everything he reports, or whoever is giving him info wants him to paint everything in that light
I know he worked for Hooks but I can’t figure out where he gets most of his FB info from
but also, Hoke 1) gets big mad over dumb things, holy cow what homer, and 2) either clearly has this “big booster boogeyman” image in his head that tilts literally everything he reports, or whoever is giving him info wants him to paint everything in that light
I know he worked for Hooks but I can’t figure out where he gets most of his FB info from
Posted on 2/9/22 at 6:04 am to TheSandman
My issue is we need one or two boosters to take the lead and get the rest of them under control. We have too many chiefs and not enough indians. We need a unified direction that they are all headed in, not pulling in completely different directions.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 6:29 am to AUCE05
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The internal investigation seems to be clean. If we want him gone, we gotta buy him out. :kern
Appears? I am not so sure it is clean. I also do not believe it to be a slam dunk. Lawyers are involved as you would expect. No inside information, but no one knows for sure and we will all find out at the same time. I do believe this has been going on for weeks and should be over soon. Hopefully today.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 6:34 am to allin2010
I mean it’s anyones guess at this point. I just want the truth out at this point. If he overly mistreated anyone hopefully we catch it and fire him. If he didn’t, hopefully we just pay the buyout and move on.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 7:07 am to Skyler97
Imminent! The truth is irrelevant at this point. Pay the man his buyout and hire Hugh Freeze or whoever.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 7:11 am to DutchValleyTiger
If Harsin stays, he is going to need some adjustments if he realistically wants success. Recruiting, booster engagement and controlling information about his program through the media has to improve. This isn't strictly about coaching football.
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