re: When will it be time to add NC State?

Posted by Lonnie Utah

Utah!

Member since Jul 2012

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Posted on 1/25/22 at 7:51 am to lowhound

About 10 years ago....

Posted by ksrph

Alabaster, AL

Member since Jan 2010

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Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:02 am to War_Eagle17

Who?! Seriously, NC State is rarely a thought.

Times have changed. Rather than TV markets, I think you’ll see additions based on alumni size, brand recognition, etc.

Posted by NaturalStateReb

Arkansas

Member since Jun 2012

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Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:34 am to aTm boy

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I never understood this. If I am going into the mid atlantic market, Im taking North Carolina and Virginia.

If possible, sure. UNC might eventually join the SEC if the ACC falls apart, but I can't see UVA doing so. They'll look at the SEC as slumming it, academically. I think they'd bolt for the Big 10. In fact, I think that was part of the strategy behind the Big 10 taking Maryland.

I don't really want to expand again, but if we have to, I hope it's east. If we can't get UNC or UVA, I'd like some combination of NC State/VT/WVU.

Posted by TX Tiger

at home

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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:42 am to Heresaucer

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This mega conference shite sucks.

Wait until the SEC cherry picks from around the country and breaks away from the rest with its own 32-team league. Because that's where all this is headed. It's only a matter of time.

Posted by southernboisb

Member since Dec 2012

7388 posts

Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:14 am to War_Eagle17

I agree that 16 will be a temporary #. Maybe that's why nothing about scheduling has been solidified yet.

This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 11:16 am

Posted by RolltidePA

North Carolina

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Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:22 am to ksrph

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Times have changed. Rather than TV markets, I think you’ll see additions based on alumni size, brand recognition, etc.

Just quickly looking at the numbers posted from both alumni associations, the University of Alabama has 35,000 active alumni members. NC State claims they currently has just under 248,000. Sounds like NC State might be cooking the books there.

NC State has a $22 million deficit in their athletic department budget. I know they've done some facility improvements, but that doesn't say much for their ability to bring in money.

Raleigh and Durham together rank as a top 25 TV market, in a state with no SEC presence. That would certainly count for a renegotiation for TV contracts regardless of brand recognition etc.

Posted by kczoutiger

Member since Jul 2016

773 posts

Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:51 am to TX Tiger

I see 4 different scenarios playing out:

1. Status quo

2. SEC to form a 24 team league as the rest of the country joins a CFB Alliance with four 12 team divisions.

SEC West:
Arkansas
Missouri
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St
Texas
Texas A&M

SEC South:
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Mississippi St
Ole Miss
Vanderbilt

SEC Southeast:
Clemson
Florida
Florida St
Georgia
Georgia Tech
South Carolina

SEC East:
Kentucky
NC State
Tennessee
UNC
Virginia
Virginia Tech

PAC 12
Arizona
Arizona St
Colorado
California
Oregon
Oregon St
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Utah
Washington
Washington St

Big 12
Baylor
Boise St
BYU
Houston
Iowa St
Kansas
Kansas St
Memphis
SMU
TCU
Texas Tech
UCF

Big 10
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan St
Minnesota
Nebraska
Northwestern
Ohio St
Penn St
Purdue
Wisconsin

ACC
Boston College
Cincinnati
Duke
Louisville
Maryland
Miami
Notre Dame
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
Wake Forest
West Virginia

3. SEC current 16 teams (including OU and Texas) add 16 other teams regardless of region to create a 32 teams CFB League.

4. Conferences completely disband, 32 teams create a CFB League

This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 12:32 pm

Posted by 14&Counting

Eugene, OR

Member since Jul 2012

37820 posts

Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:36 pm to War_Eagle17

quote:
When will it be time to add NC State? by War_Eagle17

Never

Posted by saban n bear

Member since Aug 2013

2987 posts

Posted on 1/25/22 at 1:16 pm to UKWildcats

Does anyone really know why in tf the SEC added Mizzou? They are nothing, 0, zilch, in everything they do. They’ve added nothing to the conference except boredom

Posted by twk

Wichita Falls, Texas

Member since Jul 2011

2176 posts

Posted on 1/25/22 at 2:22 pm to NaturalStateReb

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f possible, sure. UNC might eventually join the SEC if the ACC falls apart, but I can't see UVA doing so. They'll look at the SEC as slumming it, academically. I think they'd bolt for the Big 10. In fact, I think that was part of the strategy behind the Big 10 taking Maryland.

Jim Delany, former Big Ten commissioner, is a UNC grad, and really wanted to find a way to get UVA, UNC, and Georgia Tech into the Big Ten. If the ACC ever breaks up, look for those schools to head to the Big Ten.

As far as pealing off an ACC school, first, the grant of rights has to go away. But then, as to Virginia Tech and NC State, if you want either of those, it would probably have to be in a scenario where their fellow state school goes to the Big Ten. UNC and NC State share a governing board, if I recall correctly, so NC State won't be making any independent moves. UVA had to lobby hard to get Virginia Tech into the ACC, so Tech will not stab them in the back.

Posted by Mizzou4ever

Kansas City, Mo

Member since Nov 2011

15263 posts

Posted on 1/25/22 at 3:17 pm to saban n bear

Boredom can come at a pretty high cost when all you have is excellence and excitement in a conference. We are a good outlier, keep writing them checks.

Posted by southernboisb

Member since Dec 2012

7388 posts

Posted on 1/25/22 at 5:52 pm to kczoutiger

How do you do a 24 team schedule?