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2021 College Football Team Talent Composite

Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:47 am
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18444 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:47 am
Mizzou is listed number 46. That isn't good for the 2021 football college team talent composite. Only Vandy is listd lower than Mizzou. This is why Drinkwitz is trying hard to recruit much better to get this roster to have better players for 2022.

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Posted by JoeRobert_pete06
Houston
Member since Jan 2022
8 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:20 am to
This goes to show that if you are not in the top4 of this list, you ain’t winning a natty. Look what happened to Norte Dame, Cincy or Michigan
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:24 am to
Gat damn, UF #7. Jesus frick, muh #gamedaycorch
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67322 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:26 am to
quote:

This goes to show that if you are not in the top4 of this list, you ain’t winning a natty


2019 LSU was like 5 or 6.
Posted by JoeRobert_pete06
Houston
Member since Jan 2022
8 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:45 am to
I change my mind

LSU was 5th in 2019 and Clemson was 6th in 2018.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
16991 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:01 am to
Harsin and Orgeron had pretty good rosters based on that.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34916 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:04 am to
quote:

This is why Drinkwitz is trying hard to recruit much better to get this roster to have better players for 2022.


Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67322 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:08 am to
quote:

I change my mind

LSU was 5th in 2019 and Clemson was 6th in 2018.


Shoot, 2016 Clemson was #9.


Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
6947 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:16 am to
Do you know how I know that Kiffin thought he'd get another offer?
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5342 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:21 am to
quote:

LSU was 5th in 2019 and Clemson was 6th in 2018.

Recruiting is obviously not an exact science. There will always be a few 5 star busts and 3 star diamonds in the rough. But assuming competent coaching and development, the teams with highly rated recruiting classes generally will win.

In outperforming your recruiting ranking, it helps a lot if one of your 5 star hits or 3 star diamonds in the rough turns out to be the #1 pick in the draft at QB, as was the case with 2018 Clemson and 2019 LSU.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28137 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:21 am to
quote:

2021 College Football Team Talent Composite


I don't believe this takes in account transfers or those who leave the team
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67322 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:26 am to
quote:

In outperforming your recruiting ranking, it helps a lot if one of your 5 star hits or 3 star diamonds in the rough turns out to be the #1 pick in the draft at QB, as was the case with 2018 Clemson and 2019 LSU


I don't believe Joe Burrow was a three star and Trevor Lawrence for sure wasn't.

2019 LSU did have two really great three stars in Clyde Edwards Helaire and Justin Jefferson though.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20618 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:26 am to
quote:

Gat damn, UF #7. Jesus frick, muh #gamedaycorch
Quite a few teams doing less with more there
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5342 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:59 am to
quote:

I don't believe Joe Burrow was a three star and Trevor Lawrence for sure wasn't.

Lawrence was a 5 star hit at QB. Burrow (whether 3-4 star) outplayed his ranking. That was the point.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
34514 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:21 am to
A few things stand out on that list:

1. I was told by GA fans that they were better than Alabama at every position group. Clearly 247 is being bought by the REC.

2. LSU has way too much talent to be as bad as they have been, even with bad coaching. There's something even deeper there.

3. By the time you reach a team Ohio State would play during the regular season, you see 6 SEC teams (4 SEC West, 2 SEC East). Same for Clemson. Talk about your easy paths.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
34514 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Lawrence was a 5 star hit at QB. Burrow (whether 3-4 star) outplayed his ranking. That was the point.



Burrow was a 4* (low on the composite end, a 93 - so a moderate 4* - by 247). It says he was Div III in the Ohio HS system.

His scouting report shows his lowest grades in elusiveness and accuracy (both 6s), which clearly got a lot better once we was out of high school. I guess the question is whether or not the potential was obvious or not. His offers were nothing impressive; outside of Ohio State his next biggest was Boston College. So clearly a lot of schools saw him as a project more so than a "clear success". His QB coach in college did a great job recognizing and developing his skills.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67322 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:33 am to
quote:

LSU has way too much talent to be as bad as they have been, even with bad coaching. There's something even deeper there.


Most of LSU's highest rated players were either really young or not playing.

For instance, LSU's six five stars:

John Emery: Academically ineligible for 2021

Kayshon Boutte: Lost to injury

Maason Smith: True freshman, also suffered an injury late

Eli Ricks: Lost to injury, transferred after the season

Derek Stingley: Lost to injury

Sage Ryan: True freshman, didn't see the field much

Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5342 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Burrow was a 4* (low on the composite end, a 93 - so a moderate 4* - by 247). It says he was Div III in the Ohio HS system. His scouting report shows his lowest grades in elusiveness and accuracy (both 6s), which clearly got a lot better once we was out of high school. I guess the question is whether or not the potential was obvious or not. His offers were nothing impressive; outside of Ohio State his next biggest was Boston College. So clearly a lot of schools saw him as a project more so than a "clear success". His QB coach in college did a great job recognizing and developing his skills.

I’m not knowledgeable on how recruiting class rankings are compiled, but I do know that QB is the most important position on the field and how that position turns out will make a big difference in a program’s success.

A 5 star QB who lives up to his rating is worth more than a 5 star DT who does the same.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:58 am to
Imagine going 5-7 with the 11th best roster or 6-7 with the 5th and 7th best rosters. That is some serious waste of talent.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 9:00 am
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
14262 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:10 am to
quote:

1. I was told by GA fans that they were better than Alabama at every position group. Clearly 247 is being bought by the REC.


No you weren't.
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