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Remember when we let the BCS decide the national championship game?

Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:05 pm
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:05 pm
This is the current BCS rankings.

Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:06 pm to
The BCS was an excellent system that almost always got it right. Those rankings through 5 weeks are meaningless and obviously don’t reflect the accuracy it would show after a full season.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17464 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:14 pm to
1) these are not the BCS rankings

2) I would like to see them though

The BCS Formula
Harris Interactive Poll (1/3)
Coaches Poll (1/3)
6 Computers (high/low dropped) (1/3)

No way Georgia is 17th based on that formula.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 3:26 pm
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
1158 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:20 pm to
The beauty of the BCS composite system is that it smoothed out the human irrationality and adjusted empirically from week to week.

But that's boring, so instead we get a flawed human committee beholden to no metrics who can adjust and readjust on the fly in order to drive media narratives and public perception.

The BCS ranking system was fine, they just should have let more teams vie for the championship.
Posted by Bobulinski
Member since Oct 2020
597 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:22 pm to
Georgia too high.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
18095 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

1) these are not the BCS rankings

They're the rankings on MCubed.net. Not sure what their criteria is, or why the OP tried to pass them off as the BCS?

Mcubed.net rankings
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

hey're the rankings on MCubed.net. Not sure what their criteria is, or why the OP tried to pass them off as the BCS?

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19834 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

They're the rankings on MCubed.net.

I knew I recognized that background
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6763 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:40 pm to
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/college-sports/2023/10/141352/fake-bcs-rankings-if-they-existed-2023-wk-5

here's a link of a guy at least making an honest attempt at replicating the bcs today.

TEAM RECORD BCS RANK BCS AVERAGE AP POLL AP AVG COACHES COACHES AVG COMPUTER COMPUTER AVG
GEORGIA 5-0 1 0.9172 1 0.9684 1 0.9931 5 0.7900
TEXAS 5-0 2 0.9044 3 0.9200 4 0.8631 1 0.9300
MICHIGAN 5-0 3 0.9020 2 0.9265 2 0.9394 4 0.8400
OHIO ST 4-0 4 0.8946 4 0.8755 3 0.8781 1 0.9300
PENN ST 5-0 5 0.8224 6 0.7917 6 0.7756 3 0.9000
FLORIDA ST 4-0 6 0.7802 5 0.8620 5 0.8588 8 0.6200
WASHINGTON 5-0 7 0.7640 7 0.7826 8 0.7494 7 0.7600
OREGON 5-0 8 0.6790 8 0.7181 9 0.6988 8 0.6200
ALABAMA 4-1 9 0.6656 11 0.5942 10 0.6225 6 0.7800
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15680 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:44 pm to
This is most definitely NOT simulated BCS rankings. Its a list of undefeated teams. Stop getting your information from Facebook
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
2460 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

The BCS was an excellent system that almost always got it right.


Gotta disagree. It only got it right when things fell perfectly and only two teams were really candidates. A situation any "system" could have picked.

But there were some monster screw ups.

2001, and 2003 were the main ones. 2007 was a total cluster. There were others where team the team #2 was questionable relative to other possibilities. 2008 is a good example. And Auburn fans are forever bitching about 2004 after OU laid a monstrous egg in the final.

The one good thing about 12 teams is that among the top teams, nobody will be left out for no good reason. Although there will again be ridiculous hair splitting at 12/13 among probably five or even more teams. Deep down, the one that gets in knows they really didn't deserve it.
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
1158 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

2008 is a good example. And Auburn fans are forever bitching about 2004 after OU laid a monstrous egg in the final.


We were bitching long before that. Auburn played more top-10 teams that year than USC and OU combined.
Posted by Beachbum87
Las Vegas
Member since Oct 2022
3383 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

1) these are not the BCS rankings 2) I would like to see them though


You’re correct.

The correct BCS ranking are in this article

Top5

UGA, Texas, Mich, Ohio St, Pedo St

Miami at 17

ETA: some of the polls and computers used to determine the BCS are now out of commission. So this is a Frankenstein formula used for BCS rankings.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 4:03 pm
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
10263 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:58 pm to
No way this is right.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13975 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

But that's boring, so instead we get a flawed human committee beholden to no metrics who can adjust and readjust on the fly in order to drive media narratives and public perception.
I remember the Stoops leaving Auburn off his top 25 to help get Bob Stoops in 2004. It may not have mattered but it showed how some people shouldn't have a say. Especially coaches whose teams it matters to.
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
3683 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:35 pm to
This is the correct link for BCS rankings

If you are too lazy to click:

#1 Texas
#2 Michigan
#3 Georgia
#4 Oregon
#5 FSU
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
1158 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

I remember the Stoops leaving Auburn off his top 25 to help get Bob Stoops in 2004. It may not have mattered but it showed how some people shouldn't have a say. Especially coaches whose teams it matters to.


Sure. But with an expanded field Auburn would have been in...despite that human bias. The computers mitigated the human element almost enough...but there were only 2 spots to fill so the margin for error was too slim.
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
11660 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:56 pm to
The BCS was fine. It didn't determine who played in the natty, it just ranked the teams and did a pretty good job at it most often. Humans decided that only two teams counted.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:10 pm to
Bring back the BCS formula. Top 4 in a playoff.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
16026 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:12 pm to
BCS = king
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