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re: Why We Should Keep Gustav As HC (long post)

Posted on 11/24/20 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 10:25 pm to
I like the way you think on the production portion of contracts going forward.

However, every thread on the board in someway turns into a fire or not fire Gus thread. It's exhausting in every way.

Gus isn't going anywhere at least until the end of next season and I don't think he will be going anywhere after next season personally because I think we will win 10+ games and possibly SEC champs. Depends on the development of the youth. I also think with a year under his belt Coach Bicknell if he stays will start getting some O-linemen out of high school.

I also don't think AD Green is much for moving on quickly. He's just kind of an empty suit as an AD. Very good with the student athletes but hasn't shown any pull with the Board at this point yet. The money people are willing to wait Saban out and Gus's contract.

When Bo is gone will be the time to make the move. Will it happen I'm not sure. Is the die hard fans tired of Gus? Obviously but the average passing fan continues to come to games and spend money.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34512 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 10:34 pm to
Saban just had his hip replaced and told Covid to eat dogshit so I’m not counting on him to retire anytime this decade
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 11:04 pm to
The 3A baseball coach says keep him, so we must keep him.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21104 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 11:39 pm to
I didn't say keep him. You morons are insufferable. I'll just be glad when Gus is fired so ya'll can bitch about something else. What will the excuse be then. Oh I know the PTB...

Once you come to the realization that AU Football is great the way it is and that many decades of AU fans have been through much worse then anything you jokers in the instant gratification moment grow up it will never change will just be another excuse for why we are "embarrassing".

We are a top 13-15 program. Gus has kept us there. I understand the fatigue but you guys have lost your minds about Gus. Reminds me of liberals and Trump. No amount of logic makes sense. The Bible predicted it correctly. That the world would be turned over to a reprobate mind. We are definitely there.
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 11:47 pm
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 1:21 am to
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You morons are insufferable.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 4:52 am to
Gus has done some good things.

I’m more of the mindset that eventually with the overall interest in “sportsball” diminishing, that we will need to be creative in contracts going forward.

These things are true:
1. Participation rates in football are down so the love of the game may go down.
2. Time is precious. Attending games or even watching is a chunk of time. Attending a game burns a weekend. Choices have to be made.
3. Costs are substantial. It’s not a necessity to go to a game. People have lived without it this year, and who knows if all of them will head back whenever stadiums allow full capacity.
4. Demographics are destiny. Prior to 1980, games on TV were limited. Radio was my lifeline. I was cultured to love Auburn and football. Going to a game was special. Kickoff was 130. Game over around 4. My parents generation is at the point where most of them don’t have the energy to do the game day slog. My generation is in the middle, we love football, but many of our kids find other ways to spend their time. The emphasis on BCS, playoff, etc has coupled with our binary social media declarations of you are “sugar or shite”, “great or suck”, “all or nothing” has led to disinterest in bowl games, or even games after you’ve lost enough to be out of the hunt.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 8:57 am to
Let's revisit this thread Saturday evening...or Sunday morning when we've cooled-off some.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45015 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 9:03 am to
I will not be happy with Gus after Sat. Will probably call for him to be fired 7 or 8 times. However, he isn't getting fired this year.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 2:55 pm to
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We are a top 13-15 program. Gus has kept us there. I understand the fatigue but you guys have lost your minds about Gus. Reminds me of liberals and Trump. No amount of logic makes sense. The Bible predicted it correctly. That the world would be turned over to a reprobate mind. We are definitely there.




I don't want us to be a 13-15 program.

I want us to be a top 10 program. That is the ONLY way that we will compete at a level that we will predominately have a chance at the playoffs MOST years.

At our current rate in 8 years we would have been at the end in contention for the 4 team playoff, 1 time(2013).

That is not enough for this program.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21104 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 5:03 pm to
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I don't want us to be a 13-15 program.

I want us to be a top 10 program.


I totally agree with this. However, when you start chasing down coaches it gets you into a mess. I mean seriously look at USCw, Texas, Nebraska, Tennessee... They are all top 10 historical teams. They have each tried to hire the new up and comer can miss guy but have stayed horrible then they were before.

I am still of the belief that Auburn the city, university, and football team are great. I love watching and cheering. Will do so until the day I die regardless of coach or record. That's just how I am.

But it is time for a change, it wont happen this year because of economics, it probably won't happen next year because of record.

Winning consistently at AU is one of if not the toughest job in America because of our schedule/plus rivals. Add on top of that the expectations and you have pay big bucket to attract quality coaches and assistants to deal with the expectations.

The goal post moving to make an complaint to fire Gus is what drives some of us crazy. Everyone knew we were inexperienced on the OL and DL this season add Covid and the season is purely a toss up on any day. In the summer no one cared who got fired we just wanted some normalcy and our college football. Try to put things in perspective a little. At this point in the season most would have agreed our record would be what it is now with a likely loss to bama upcoming and a toss-up against aTm. We need more talent period. What's crazy is outside of a few years from Dye we are recruiting as high as we ever have and still aren't even close in talent to Bama, UGa, and LSU. Not even in the same ball park.

I have agreed its time for a coaching change for the fans. However a lot more goes into the timing then fans are unhappy we don't win every game or look perfect on every play.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21104 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 5:06 pm to
But will say the one thing that drive me nuts the most about Gus.

Saying "fill gold" instead of Field Goal.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 5:31 pm to
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there are no potential HC candidates we could hire that are worth what it would cost to replace Gustav.

None whatsoever.
Whore shite
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69998 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 7:31 pm to
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At our current rate in 8 years we would have been at the end in contention for the 4 team playoff, 1 time(2013).


I mean that is just not true. In 2017 we were in the playoffs if not for a KJ injury. No way UGA would have beaten us in Atlanta with a healthy KJ or a running back with a pulse


But I dont want to be in this thread. Its pointless.

Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4458 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 9:51 pm to
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I mean that is just not true. In 2017 we were in the playoffs if not for a KJ injury. No way UGA would have beaten us in Atlanta with a healthy KJ or a running back with a pulse


But I dont want to be in this thread. Its pointless


We lost by 21 points and this moron thinks that one running back would have not only erased that deficit, but won us the game LMAO. Just excuse yourself, for the love of God.

We MAY have had some semblance of a chance in that game if our dear leader would have done his fricking job (you know - devising a gameplan and coaching) instead of negotiating a power move to weasel his way into a new contract. Can anyone here imagine Nick Saban, on the doors of a potential championship birth, distracting himself and his team with that bullshite?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50801 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 10:20 pm to
I agree with everything up to Gus and the contract.
You are grasping at straws there. We actually also gave him an extension a day before we whooped Missouri in 2013 as well. Contracts are just business.
Saban actually fired Kiffin a week before the National Championship game which could’ve been just as much disruptive as well.

Edit: generally the bitching about what Gus could’ve been doing has always been nonsense to me. He is one of if not the most structured coaches in the league right up there with Saban. Anybody remember when Gus was in Arkansas visiting friends some Friday night, and people were up in arms because Gus wasn’t game prepping? Same thing. People attack the silliest non factors when most of the time the biggest flaws (not having a capable backup for KJ in this instance) is still there.
This post was edited on 11/25/20 at 10:38 pm
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20495 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 5:23 am to
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. In 2017 we were in the playoffs if not for a KJ injury. No way UGA would have beaten us in Atlanta with a healthy K


UGA had a better game plan for seccg than the regular season game.

They ran the edges.

Never understood their game plan in the earlier matchup.
Derrick Brown was a man.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69998 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 5:52 am to
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We lost by 21 points and this moron thinks that one running back would have not only erased that deficit, but won us the game LMAO.


It was less than a TD game mid 4th quarter. Dont spin things. We were certainly in it and having a solid running game would have been critical

But carry on. And my comments still have nothing to do with Gus. It about Auburn. Stop spinning things

Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8943 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 7:48 am to
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We lost by 21 points and this moron thinks that one running back would have not only erased that deficit, but won us the game LMAO


Yeah, count me as a moron too. If KJ was 100%, we would have won. We were in it until mid 4th without KJ. There's no doubt that with him, it's a W.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9054 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 12:30 pm to
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Based on your subject line, I'm not reading your bull shite.

We need change to reinvigorate the fan base.


Do you honestly think your lack of presence will be seriously missed? They'll sell your tickets in a heartbeat.

If you are a ticket holder, as soon as , full capacity is announced you'll send your check or stand in line. Regardless of who coaches.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4458 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 11:44 am to
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It was less than a TD game mid 4th quarter. Dont spin things. We were certainly in it and having a solid running game would have been critical



We were getting outplayed in virtually every aspect of the game. I guess you also conveniently left out the fact where their own trio of backs (Swift/Chubb/Michel) averaged a whopping 7.78 yards per carry in that game. Fromm completed 73% of his pass attempts (versus a 50% game from Stidham) and was flawless. We had 2 turnovers to their 0. They blocked our only FG attempt whereas their own kicker was perfect, and their punter outperformed Marshall. Want to get even deeper? Their defense had 9 QB hurries versus a whopping 1 QB hurry by our own defense. They held the ball for 6 more minutes and outgained us in total yards 421 to 259.

It was a complete beatdown in every aspect of the game. The fact that it was "kinda close" on the scoreboard for most of the game is negated by the actual product on the field which was entirely lopsided. In reality we were actually very lucky that it WAS that close, as we were clearly hanging on for dear life. Claiming that Kerryon Johnson being healthy would somehow patch up all of the other deficiencies in that game is comical. We couldn't pressure their QB OR stop the run in any way shape or form (or protect our own QB). Couldn't produce a turnover and got outplayed on special teams. Thats a loss 95 times out of 100 and hence why the final score was 28-7 LMAO.

Getting beat down in literally every facet of the game and then turning around and saying "we would have won if our RB was healthy" has to be the new pinnacle of moral victory.

This post was edited on 11/27/20 at 11:55 am
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