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re: What we’ve learned in 3 games

Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:00 pm to
That’s why we play the games. TJ Rushing has a lot of coaching that needs to be done over the next 3-4 games to get those guys right.
Posted by aubiecat
Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
5821 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:02 pm to
We seem to only have two receivers that are man enough to play clutch college football. Three if you include Simmons. I'd like to see the offcial stat number of bad throws Arnold made against USA. There weren't many.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20806 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:07 pm to
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Durkin plays like Auburn is up 35-0 all game long


For any flaws and all teams have flaws Durkin last season and this season have put Auburn in a place to win every game defensively.

We also have to realize Durkin is trying to build depth with redshirt and true freshman.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23483 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:07 pm to
I would love to see more man coverage. The LBers and DBs, especially the safeties, are just not passing off and picking up receivers in their zones the way they should. Why they arent? I do not know.

There was one play last week that was just a simple post route from either the slot or the TE/H-back. Riddick picks him up through his zone, turns his head and points in Winters' direction and passes him off. Winters was standing flat-footed looking in the backfieldand didn't take a step back until the receiver was within a yard or two of being even with his depth. He didn't turn his hips and run until the receiver was a yard behind him and he was toast.

You cant be playing the deep zone and let a guy going full speed that close before you even start to backpedal. I know Winters is young, but that kind of play is stuff you learn in JV ball as a safety. Gotta be better.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 8:27 am
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3662 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:07 pm to
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Based on the first 3 weeks, we are going to be 0 - 3 to start SEC play and possibly 0 - 5 unless there is a huge improvement from the QB and secondary. I felt pretty good coming into the season but each week has me thinking we are living on borrowed time and reality is about to hit in an ugly way. Hope I'm wrong and we get at least 1 of the first 3 but all of those teams look way better than us at this point in the season.


Huge improvement from the QB? 70% comp, 8 total TD, 0 turnovers, 5.5 ypc, with pretty vanilla play calling. We must be watching different games.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49497 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:08 pm to
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Same I don’t care either. I just need to see Auburn win. However it happens I will take it.
Sounds great. Once Nick Marshall needed to pass to win. Other time he needed to run the whole time against Tennessee.

We know JA can run...
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20806 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:12 pm to
The only bad throws I remember in the game was the one to Howard where he got lit up a little. And if you count the pass to Perry deep.

Cam alligator armed another slant and that was incomplete. We had 3 throw aways. Had the drop by Howard, drop by Fields, and not sure if you call it drop looked like PI to Singleton on the stop route. Another pass to Howard where the ball was either tipped or hit Lew’s helmet and Howard slipped as well.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23483 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:13 pm to
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After Thorne, this is music to my ears. As a Titans fan that watched Will Levis, hearing the words "risk adverse" gives me an erection.


I feel you. I understand every fan being gun shy after the last few seasons. Eventually, Arnold is gonna have to trust what he is seeing and let it fly. There's been several instances this year of him sitting back there all day and not throwing it because the window isnt as big as he would like. The receivers are open, and you can even see him load up to throw and change his mind.

I dont want him to be Lagway vs LSU and continually throw into double and triple coverage all game. But when these games get tighter, hes gonna have to throw it in those smaller windows and make plays to win.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
13588 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:24 pm to
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Eventually, Arnold is gonna have to trust what he is seeing and let it fly


I agree completely. He needs to trust his recievers and accept that sometimes it doesn't work. I just have PTSD after watching my team lose because of hero ball. I may need a therapist, or a stronger drink.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
12884 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:33 pm to
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Jackson Arnold is risk adverse


He had Bryce Cain wide open on a skinny post and he didn’t see him. I think (read:hope) that will improve as he gets more drop backs and film work during the season.
Posted by EddieFelson
The Fast One
Member since Jan 2016
117 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:58 pm to
I think the corners are fine it’s more of a safety/nickel issue I believe.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39457 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 10:07 pm to
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think the corners are fine it’s more of a safety/nickel issue I believe.


Lee has gotten burned a few times but yes it’s mostly been the safeties and I don’t understand why they are doing what they are doing. When in zone, they just stare at the QB and don’t look to see where guys are at all. One of the post patterns I watched Saturday, the near corner was with his guy and we were playing I think cover 3 or 0, as the receiver broke on the post, the corner looked over and signaled to the safety and passed him off. The safety didn’t (I think Harris), didn’t even react to the guy coming into his zone. If he had stepped up, he gets an int or pbu. He just lets the guy run in front of him and never even breaks. It was the only receiver on that side of the field. Why the hell would you stay 5-10 yards behind him?
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17180 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 10:35 pm to
I am hoping that there is still a lot we haven’t learned. Positive stuff that is.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22801 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:04 pm to
Consistency is key
Posted by auie93
Auburn
Member since Jan 2021
785 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:42 pm to
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Huge improvement from the QB? 70% comp, 8 total TD, 0 turnovers, 5.5 ypc, with pretty vanilla play calling. We must be watching different games.


I believe he took 4 sacks in the first half against Ball State and most of those were him holding the ball too long. He does not throw until a receiver is completely open and they aren't going to get the separation and sit in the zone against SEC teams like they could a few times against USA. I want to be wrong about how I think it is going to play out the next few weeks but have not seen anything from the stands the past two weeks that inspires confidence. After a decade of "Coach is just keeping it vanilla and saving the offense for the big games" never panning out, I will have to see it to believe it.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
12884 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:30 am to
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TJ Rushing has a lot of coaching that needs to be done


He gets a failing grade up to this point in the season. Worst group, assignment-wise, on the team.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39457 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:24 am to
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first half against Ball State and most of those were him holding the ball too long


Nah. Those sacks the OL got absolutely whipped. One of those was on Jackson. He does hold onto the ball and is timid to let it rip, but those sacks in the Ball State game were much more on OL.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18467 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:24 am to
I watched that as well Nerd, and thought, the average fan is going to say "Riddick just got blown by" not realizing it was Winters responsibility to cover the man deep.

And the play where they have three wide to the right and our three DBs cover two of them and the third was not even covered.

Those are assignment errors on the players that is not Durkin's scheme.

I expect Durkin will have the DB he wants to run with this week and we should see less errors.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18467 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:27 am to
The only bad throws I remember in the game was the one to Howard where he got lit up a little. And if you count the pass to Perry deep.

That swing pass to Howard he should have shielded his catch with his body, you know the DB is coming, dont try to make an arm catch.

I think Perry ran the timing route too long, ball hit the ground three feet behind him before he got turned around, and Arnold kind of threw down his arms and looked at the sidelines in frustration.

I do feel sorry for Perry on that one call where Arnold was to look right, turn and throw to Perry on a perfectly set up play. Pink mentioned it on their call in show, that was a TD, unfortunately they had called a blitz and Arnold had to turn and just throw it out of bounds.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 2:38 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18467 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:50 am to
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But when these games get tighter, hes gonna have to throw it in those smaller windows and make plays to win.


I had to chuckle, I remember Peyton Manning talking about one of his first games as a pro, he ran his progressions and then threw it away. He comes to the sidelines and the coach said "Peyton, why didnt you throw to X on that skinny post?". He said coach the DB was on him, to which the coach said "In the NFL we call that "open" Peyton, throw it".
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