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re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)

Posted on 11/21/25 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 12:36 pm to
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Because Petrino wasn't the same coach after the motorcycle incident. Brohm also isn't coaching in the same ACC that Petrino did in his second stint and he's about to have 4 losses in the weakest ACC ever. You can lol and scoff all you want. He's a good but not great coach with a limited ceiling that isn't getting hired by Auburn.



You are not arguing from points of fact. You are reaching to try to prove your point, and failing.

What does Petrino's motorcycle accident have to do with his coaching ability? Did he hit his head too hard and forget plays from his playbook or something? This is a completely fabricated take that you can not prove as being meaningful in any significant way. However, what I can prove to you is that Petrino had a future NFL superstar QB for 3 seasons when he was in his second stint at Louisville (2 of those were ELITE seasons by Lamar Jackson). Brohm is putting up a better winning percentage to date, and he has done it with two complete castoff QB's: Tyler Shough, and now Miller Moss. Both of them failed at previous schools, and Brohm has won a lot of games with them (including multiple huge upsets). He even made Shough into a 2nd round draft pick. This is a guy who had SIX (6) seasons of completely average or worse play at Oregon and Texas Tech before he transferred to Louisville.

And how exactly is the ACC any weaker now than it was when Petrino was coaching at Louisville? Miami has been better over the past two seasons than they were from 2014-2018. SMU made the CFP last season and is a good team. FSU went 13-1 in 2023 (Brohm's first season at Louisville). Duke and GTech are both at a high-point coming off Mike Elko's two seasons at Duke and Brent Key's tenure at GTech. Clemson is down significantly, but back in 2014-2018 the ACC was basically just them. Even FSU under Jimbo was starting its decline in 2015 (ie: right at the start of Petrino's second tenure).
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 12:37 pm
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9896 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 12:42 pm to
I think his averaging 10 wins a season at Ole Miss over 5 years and leading them to a playoff birth this year as well as finally some signature wins like Georgia and Oklahoma this past couple years puts him a clear cut above Drink. I quite like Dilly as well and would put him in Kiffin's ballpark perhaps but I think Kiffin's resume is still clearly better.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85788 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Maybe. I'll also point out Kiffin and his record is terrible. He had to come back this weekend vs a really bad UF team. He has only won the Conference USA title as a HC. To say he is a clear cut top coach is laughable. If you want to argue that we should be going after Lanning, then I would agree. Outside of him, you have to cherry pick information on Drink, Sumrall, Kiffin, etc to find separation.


I suppose it's possible Auburn just decided not to enter the Kiffin sweepstakes. But I think more likely we didn't anticipate being able to compete with the bigger openings and had already been denied at the alter once.

I definitely think it's objectively fair to say Kiffin is the most coveted candidate this cycle. But that's not necessarily indicative of his value as a HC (although I of course think he's a good HC and I think he'd be the overwhelming pick of AU people if they thought he was an option).
Posted by michaeldwde
Georgia
Member since Nov 2010
4032 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
563 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 12:53 pm to
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Buster Faulkner needs to be looked at. He has #1 offense in CFB right now.


Uh yeah, he's the whole reason for Tech's success.

But he might have too much Kirby in him and not enough Troy.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22876 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 12:55 pm to
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arguments for Charles Kelly


There are no good arguments for Charles Kelly. Even Sumrall would be a better choice.
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
20118 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 12:56 pm to
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But he might have too much Kirby in him and not enough Troy.




That you Yellafella?
Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
563 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:07 pm to
Time will tell - Cohen hire or Troy hire?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49989 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:13 pm to
It's Happening!!!!!!!!

































Gus is coming back as OC!






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Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6580 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:16 pm to
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Gus is coming back as OC!


Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49989 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:18 pm to

School Offensive Coordinator
Boston College Brian Lawling
California Bryan Harsin
Clemson Garrett Riley
Duke Jonathan Brewer
Florida State Gus Malzahn
Georgia Tech Buster Faulkner (or Head Coach Brent Key)
Louisville Brian Brohm (Head Coach Jeff Brohm is heavily involved)
Miami Shannon Dawson
North Carolina Freddie Kitchens
NC State Robert Anae
Pitt Kade Bell
SMU Casey Woods
Stanford Ryan Byham (Co-Offensive Coordinator) / Terry Heffernan (Co-Offensive Coordinator)
Syracuse Jeff Nixon
Virginia Desmond Kitchings
Virginia Tech Tyler Bowen
Wake Forest Rob Ezell


Damn even Harsin is an ACC offensive coordinator. Wouldn't that be a peach
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
13962 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:18 pm to
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LSU and UF are targeting Kiffin and he's likely to either go to one of those schools or stay at Ole Miss

So basically you're saying he's been contacted and he may leave or he may stay where he is?: Can't the same thing be said about Dilly, Key, etc.?

I haven't been keeping up as much as I probably should have, but didn't Cohen say that there would be an announcement the day after the IB? To me that means one of two things. Either a hire has been made and it's being kept under wraps until then, or he set a deadline for a hire and if one isn't made by 11/28 they fall back to Durkin as a safety net.

Finally, the comment several pages back about War Eagle Anyways. I've always taken that to mean that Auburn fans support the team win or lose. I've seen the stands stay full with chants of "It's great to be an Auburn Tiger," even after a loss to Bama. Compare that to LSU where the stands start to empty in the 3rd quarter, or the UGA fans that had never set foot in a stadium until they started winning (and probably still can't tell you who the starting QB is). Does it mean we are ok with mediocrity? No, and if anyone, from TPTB on down, think that, you really don't understand the Auburn fan base as a whole.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39580 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:18 pm to
That's ragebait if I've ever seen it
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20264 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:24 pm to
Mike G is in shambles that his Durka Durka for HC propaganda didn’t work
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
3930 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:26 pm to
Bring him hAUme

Sumrall Malzahn Durk

That moves the needle a lil bit for me

Shows that Cohen isn't gonna let Sumrall turn us into Big Tulane like Harsin did with Boise

And before people take their pitchforks off the grinder go look at what Gus is doing this year. He's still got it. The offense isn't losing FSU games.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 1:27 pm
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4344 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:30 pm to
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If you want to argue that we should be going after Lanning, then I would agree. Outside of him, you have to cherry pick information on Drink, Sumrall, Kiffin, etc to find separation.


Even Lanning hasn't proven to be truly "elite". What has he truly accomplished? He is winning ~1 more game per season than Cristobal was winning at the tail end of his tenure, at a program that has ~Top 3-5 resources nationally and barely any regional competition. He didn't even have to rebuild anything: he walked into a winning program (Cristobal wasn't fired, he left on his own).

Lanning has more or less just met expectations, given the resources at his disposal. He was 0-3 vs. DeBoer at Washington, and this season he has played just one comparable team to his own (Indiana), and they lost that game by 10 points. Their best win this season is a 2-point win vs. Iowa.

Don't get me wrong he is a great coach, but its funny seeing people try to crap on guys like Drink or Brohm or Dillingham who are winning at programs with clear-cut ceilings, but then argue that Lanning is an elite coach. Lanning has beaten the teams that he is supposed to beat, and has lost almost all of the games to his actual relative competition. How is this any different than the argument being made against Drinkwitz's resume? It is actually worse, because Oregon is a hell of a lot closer in talent to OSU/Washington/etc. than Missouri is to UGA, Bama, etc.
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
8309 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:35 pm to
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You are not arguing from points of fact. You are reaching to try to prove your point, and failing


I'm not the one trying to claim winning at Louisville is like winning at Vandy but go on and write a few more paragraphs trying to turn TEMU Drinkwitz into the next Saban. i need a good chuckle
Posted by michaeldwde
Georgia
Member since Nov 2010
4032 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:37 pm to
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Even Lanning hasn't proven to be truly "elite". What has he truly accomplished? He is winning ~1 more game per season than Cristobal was winning at the tail end of his tenure, at a program that has ~Top 3-5 resources nationally and barely any regional competition. He didn't even have to rebuild anything: he walked into a winning program (Cristobal wasn't fired, he left on his own).

Lanning has more or less just met expectations, given the resources at his disposal. He was 0-3 vs. DeBoer at Washington, and this season he has played just one comparable team to his own (Indiana), and they lost that game by 10 points. Their best win this season is a 2-point win vs. Iowa.

Don't get me wrong he is a great coach, but its funny seeing people try to crap on guys like Drink or Brohm or Dillingham who are winning at programs with clear-cut ceilings, but then argue that Lanning is an elite coach. Lanning has beaten the teams that he is supposed to beat, and has lost almost all of the games to his actual relative competition. How is this any different than the argument being made against Drinkwitz's resume? It is actually worse, because Oregon is a hell of a lot closer in talent to OSU/Washington/etc. than Missouri is to UGA, Bama, etc.



omfg ,somebody finally said it...
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49989 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:41 pm to
Please get back to an AD trying to push a singular offensive coordinator on all candidates
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44848 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:42 pm to
I am just making a point that LSU/UF asking Kiffin is not any indication they are a better program than us right now. Cohen knows Kiffin well. It is just as plausible that he texted Kiffin early on and knows he is staying at OM, or wants to jump to the NFL soon. And we would want to kill Kiffin when he does what he always does and rolls out a very average defense and never recruits high school talent.
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