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Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:01 am to Aubie Spr96
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Jefferson County shut our business down today. We considered staying open, but when speaking with the SBA people about possibly getting one of these loans they talk about, we were told that if we defied the health dept recommendations, then we risked not getting a loan. In essence, a gov't forced shut down. To further piss me off, we made too much money to qualify for the gov't handouts being offered. NADA on the Trump handout. NADA on the sales tax forgiveness from the state.
Could you sell online?
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:19 am to LanierSpots
The thing that kills me are the people that seem to be actively rooting for the virus. No positive news allowed.
Act like the world is burning or “you’re not taking this seriously”
Act like the world is burning or “you’re not taking this seriously”
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 9:23 am
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:47 am to jangalang
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More than likely most of us will eventually get the virus
Seems to be the elephant in the room. The simple calculation of that population and a swinging death rate from .05% - 3% is very grim.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:27 am to JamalSanders
We do sell through Facebook and Instagram now. Offering curbside delivery, etc, etc. We are a specialty retailer. We are the place to buy that Easter dress or the Ballroom dance dress or the outfit to get family pics taken in. People aren't doing those things now.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:52 am to Aubie Spr96
Gotcha.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:53 am to TheJones
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More than likely most of us will eventually get the virus
Seems to be the elephant in the room. The simple calculation of that population and a swinging death rate from .05% - 3% is very grim.
But what about the idea that warm weather will help stamp it down? I think that's very logical, and it gives me some comfort that we won't get to the worst case scenario, at least in the south.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:18 am to Awesome Dave
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But what about the idea that warm weather will help stamp it down? I think that's very logical
It's a theory but there isn't much to go on to know whether the theory holds or not.
There still are a few concerns though
1) Huge population of US/Europe live in northern climates that generally stay cold/mild until June/July
2) Means southern hemisphere countries are a ticking time bomb of cases
3) Virus may cycle back in the fall and even have newer, possibly deadlier mutations
Hopefully we find a more effective treatment and the vaccines in testing turn out to be viable
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 11:19 am
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:37 am to Awesome Dave
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But what about the idea that warm weather will help stamp it down?
From what I have read, the warmth doesnt kill this one like other virus.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:43 am to Awesome Dave
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But what about the idea that warm weather will help stamp it down? I think that's very logical, and it gives me some comfort that we won't get to the worst case scenario, at least in the south.
I'd normally be aggravated with the 84 degree days coming later in the week, but not now with the hope that it helps.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:31 pm to GenesChin
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GenesChin
Thank goodness that we have such an optimistic epidemiologist in our presence...
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:32 pm to Awesome Dave
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But what about the idea that warm weather will help stamp it down? I think that's very logical, and it gives me some comfort that we won't get to the worst case scenario, at least in the south.
This is based on statistical links between countries with and without a lot of cases of the virus + their climate. Those countries are seeing cases but the amount of “community spread” cases are much lower. Suggesting in those climates that transmission is less successful on surfaces. It’s very interesting. Curious about that too. MIT researchers suggested the virus is transmitting well between temperatures between 37-63. Again, that’s based on surveillance data and not lab testing of specific temperatures.
Also unclear how that translates between indoor and outdoor temps. Theoretically, most people live indoors above 63 degrees as it is and we’ve seen the virus transmit quite well in indoor areas (hospitals, nursing homes, cruise ships). Obviously those examples omit every other variable and cannot be taken on it’s own.
I think outdoor temperature and humidity’s effect on the virus won’t be known for a while. I think it may be a factor but it may not trump other variables in importance. That’s probably the takeaway. But even a modest impact on the R0 by climate (reproduction number) would be extremely helpful
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:45 pm to TheJones
UV rays kill this shite too, right?... too bad the sun never comes out.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:48 pm to lowspark12
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And ultraviolet light has been used as a disinfectant for a century in hospitals and water supplies. It shatters the genetic material inside viruses, bacteria and other microbes. However, it doesn’t always work uniformly, Menachery said, and disinfecting UV light can’t be used with people around because it damages human cells.
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:08 pm to TheJones
Can’t get the link to work.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:16 pm to LanierSpots
quote:The idea of this virus becoming less transmittable in warmer, humid climates is based on how it is transmitted and how our bodies acclimate to that climate. Your mucus becomes looser, your biochemistry/metabolism ramps up, you have a quicker immune response, etc. So it’s more about our bodies being better suited to prevent infection
From what I have read, the warmth doesnt kill this one like other virus
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:17 pm to lowspark12
Checked the link and the link was correct. Just doesn’t pull the page for whatever reason. I included the portion about UVs
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:24 pm to The Nino
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The idea of this virus becoming less transmittable in warmer, humid climates is based on how it is transmitted and how our bodies acclimate to that climate. Your mucus becomes looser, your biochemistry/metabolism ramps up, you have a quicker immune response, etc. So it’s more about our bodies being better suited to prevent infection
It also might be because saliva, etc., falls to the ground faster when it's warm.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:49 pm to Awesome Dave
Hearing rumors that Mayor Woodfin is about to issue a “shelter in place” order for Birmingham. Shutting down an entire city for (90) cases in Jefferson County. Unbelievable.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 2:29 pm to Aubie Spr96
Killing me
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