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The weakest part of the offense is WR play
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:34 am
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:34 am
Our guys can't get separation. If you watch the WRs downfield you can see that everyone is blanketed leading to coverage sacks. Yes I know the offensive line doesn't do Thorne/Ashford many favors but the root of the problem is nobody can get open.
Everyone needs to be patient. If the word on the street is true, we're going to have a few new shinny young WRs next season that can immediately upgrade the offense.
Everyone needs to be patient. If the word on the street is true, we're going to have a few new shinny young WRs next season that can immediately upgrade the offense.
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:37 am to Stidham8
quote:thats assuming they understand coverages, know how to use space and get separation. Not to mention having a capable Qb that can deliver the ball on time.
Everyone needs to be patient. If the word on the street is true, we're going to have a few new shinny young WRs next season that can immediately upgrade the offense.
We are so far away from where we need to be. Harsin really fricked us
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:38 am to Stidham8
This is true
I will add our rushing the passer game lacks quite a bit
I will add our rushing the passer game lacks quite a bit
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 11:16 am
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:41 am to ChexMix
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thats assuming they understand coverages, know how to use space and get separation. Not to mention having a capable Qb that can deliver the ball on time.
We are so far away from where we need to be. Harsin really fricked us
Elite high school WRs consistently come into the SEC and contribute right away. I agree we still have a long way to go and 2024 will be another rebuilding year.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:44 am to Stidham8
quote:I hope we can get some dudes in the transfer portal that actually pan out this time. Thorne and the WRs have been the biggest disappointment of the season so far
I agree we still have a long way to go and 2024 will be another rebuilding year.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:07 am to ChexMix
I call bullshite on players getting separation. Ole Miss slow arse tight end caught passes. You telling me he can get separation but our speedy guys cant? Thorne has over 6,000 career passing yards and can't throw a 5 yard slant.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:13 am to AuburnCPA
quote:Our WRs have struggled to get separation against man coverages.
I call bull shite on players getting separation. Ole Miss slow arse tight end caught passes. You telling me he can get separation but our speedy guys cant?
quote:It is mind boggling to say the least. Worst part for me is the 2 Qb system. It doesnt work. Pick one and design the offense around his skills set
Thorne has over 6,000 career passing yards and can't throw a 5 yard slant.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:15 am to AuburnCPA
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I call bull shite on players getting separation. Ole Miss slow arse tight end caught passes. You telling me he can get separation but our speedy guys cant? Thorne has over 6,000 career passing yards and can't throw a 5 yard slant.
I was in Baton Rouge and Auburn for the last two games and watched downfield. They can't get open. You can't see it on TV because the camera focuses in on the QB and line of scrimmage.
Guys can't get open on a simple slant route, or any route for that matter.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 11:16 am
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:17 am to Stidham8
Here’s the problem with your argument…
Koy Moore 4*
Shane Hooks 1000 yard wr at his previous school
Cam Brown top 100 wr in Florida
Jay Fair top 100 nationally
Caleb Burton top 10 wr nationally
By your logic we need 5* wrs to put up more than 100 yards passing against OM?
Explain how Tulane threw for 240 yards on then or Ga Tech 300+
Yes our Wrs aren’t future first round picks but they’re plenty serviceable enough to have a decent offense.
The offense is broke. Not sure if it’s HuGh or Montgomery
Koy Moore 4*
Shane Hooks 1000 yard wr at his previous school
Cam Brown top 100 wr in Florida
Jay Fair top 100 nationally
Caleb Burton top 10 wr nationally
By your logic we need 5* wrs to put up more than 100 yards passing against OM?
Explain how Tulane threw for 240 yards on then or Ga Tech 300+
Yes our Wrs aren’t future first round picks but they’re plenty serviceable enough to have a decent offense.
The offense is broke. Not sure if it’s HuGh or Montgomery
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:23 am to AUtigR24
Just my opinion but it’s the QB rotation. QBs/WRs need consistency between each other and that is hard when the coaches are swapping QBs mid series.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:27 am to AUtigR24
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Here’s the problem with your argument…
Koy Moore 4*
Shane Hooks 1000 yard wr at his previous school
Cam Brown top 100 wr in Florida
Jay Fair top 100 nationally
Caleb Burton top 10 wr nationally
Per 247 sports individual rankings (widely considered to be the best in the business):
Jay Fair was a 3 star.
Koy Moore was a 3 star
Shane Hooks was a 3 star.
Camden Brown was a 3 star.
Jay Fair
Koy Moore
Shane Hooks
Camden Brown
They were pretty spot on with these rankings. They've proven to be below average SEC WRs that cannot get open consistently. A roster full of 3 star WRs is going to give you 3 star results.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:28 am to Stidham8
quote:And when they do get open, the timing is off or our Qb is looking at the wrong side of the field. Truly frustrating to watch from the stands
Guys can't get open on a simple slant route, or any route for that matter.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:32 am to Stidham8
No doubt.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:58 am to ChexMix
Or they complete two back to back and decide to throw 30 yards into double coverage. It's ok to drive the ball down the field. That was a dumb call whoever made it.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:15 pm to Stidham8
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Everyone needs to be patient. If the word on the street is true, we're going to have a few new shinny young WRs next season that can immediately upgrade the offense
How many 4* receivers did Freeze get in the portal this past year?
3 4*
1 3*
And we are to expect a new group of 4* receivers will do better? Why? And these aren't even freshmen... they have college experience as well.
Why aren't these 4* receivers on the team this year worth a shite?
Edit: We can argue stars.... but at the end of the day, most coaches can have success with these receivers. Every other school in the country passes better than we do. Our passing game SHOULD NOT be this dismal no matter if those receivers are 4* or 3*...
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:19 pm to Stidham8
I was at the Berkeley game, and we were floored at how Thorne missed seeing wide open receivers all game. And I know there was another game where it happened again. Maybe the receivers are having trouble getting open against these SEC defenses, but even if they are, our QBs can't get the ball to them.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:34 pm to BranTheHuman2
Video Review has determined that is a lie. QB hyperfocused on unopen players, or throwing behind/too high for players they do throw to leading to no yards after catch however is true.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:38 pm to BranTheHuman2
Happened a ton against Ole Miss too. Backside of plays was usually wide open. On plays where Robby was in, backside DB or LB usually crashed hard. Hell, there was one play where the far side DB was telegraphing a CB blitz, Thorne even saw it. The safety was still largely middle of the field, no ability to cover that receiver. We just run the ball instead of checking to a pass or PA pass and throw it to the guy that didn't have a defender within 15 yards of him.
Saw multiple plays where one defender was covering two of our receivers on the backside of the play, receivers were wide open, and don't get looked at. Saw others that if the ball was thrown on time, WR had enough separation out of a break. Problem is the ball isn't getting thrown at the right time, so even when we do throw it, it looks like guys don't have separation.
Saw multiple plays where one defender was covering two of our receivers on the backside of the play, receivers were wide open, and don't get looked at. Saw others that if the ball was thrown on time, WR had enough separation out of a break. Problem is the ball isn't getting thrown at the right time, so even when we do throw it, it looks like guys don't have separation.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:58 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Problem is the ball isn't getting thrown at the right time, so even when we do throw it, it looks like guys don't have separation.
Pretty much this. Our WR aren't great, but even when they are open they aren't getting thrown to either altogether or in stride. Thorne stares down his first option and can't see the field at all. On top of that he is scared to throw and throws late constantly because of that, leading to them looking even less open. Combine that with us not throwing at all on early downs due to Freeze have zero confidence in the passing game, and you wind up with a total package of suck.
The Thorne experiment needs to end, whatever skills he has have been ruined, and I don't see it getting fixed this season.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:00 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Thorne and Ashford are not SEC QB talent. I know our WR corps isn’t like other top teams but it’s hard to blame the receivers when the QB can’t see when they ARE open.
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