re: The truth about Napoleon Scumbag that deep-down many know…

Those bastards tried to F our 2010 season with the Cam investigation. NCAA hung out for like 4yrs…

It was not a fair fight. NIL is a fair fight. He had to leave.

Culture he created was pretty incredible and is the reason he won so much. That culture with the pay to play advantage was too much. NCAA had way more evidence on them and did nothing. Great advantage. They will suck soon

How old are you again?

The classic was paying a player's mother to house sit a rental property.

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Agreed. You just have to respect what he is and then know our program has to find a way to get to that level. Dude was a challenge football savant.

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We know what he did. In the era where Bama could brazenly pay players under the table and transfers were restricted, Saban could stockpile 5* talent.

Now that everyone can pay players and there are loose transfer rules, it’s no coincidence Saban’s teams were much less dominant.

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He'll always be an all-time coach, but he was the perfect pair for that dirty arse program. Stared at the barrel of a gun then flaunted it in front of everyone's faces for years.

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Saban cheated the system better than anyone else. The key to being a great coach is having great players. Once the playing field got leveled with NIL, dude quit.

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I stopped hating Saban YEARS ago. Its kind of like hating The Terminator for trying to kill Sarah Conner. Dude was just a football cyborg.

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I finally got to this point myself. The first few years he was at Bama I hated the man. I mean hated. Because he was making them winners and all of the Updykes were crawling out of their holes and braying about how great they were and how great they had always been. It reminded me of UGA when Richt got their and they started winning.

But after a while I realized that Bama fans were gonna be Bama fans no matter what, and that Bama was always going to figure out how to game the system better than anyone else. And maybe Saban changed some too at some point, changed his outward personality a bit. But I found myself laughing at some of the things he said and did. Leaving the Coke bottle on the lectern and walking off from the press conference; the whole rat poison discussion (and this year's rat poison = Wheaties comparison).

Wife and I were talking about it last night when the news started to break. As much as you hated to play a Saban led Bama team, it was because you knew it was going to be a fight and you better bring your A game or you weren't going to win. It's going to be strange not having him on the sideline for TSIO and IB. College football is going to look and feel very different next year, no matter who is named to replace him.

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We know what he did. In the era where Bama could brazenly pay players under the table and transfers were restricted, Saban could stockpile 5* talent.

Now that everyone can pay players and there are loose transfer rules, it’s no coincidence Saban’s teams were much less dominant

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You aren't going to bait me in arguing on Saban's behalf, but just know your argument is that of a simpleton.

eta: Some of things you said have truth to them, but it is just a simple analogy of his time as a HC and I am not going to argue on Saban's behalf to the depth it would require.

Agreed. We got way too many betas on this board.

Here’s the real rub, and you have to be one dense mofo to not see it.

Not only did bama get to buy players and their families in broad daylight with total immunity from the ncaa, they got to make sure nobody else did, and dialed up an investigation for anyone who dared challenge their supremacy.

The most laughable aspect of the Cam witch hunt was that Mississippi State was never investigated for their part. And why? Because they weren’t the team that beat alabubba.

Allow me to repeat, Yahoo produced undeniable proof that dj fluker was being paid, a cancelled check for 5 figures, in the luther davis/john phillips story. The ncaa didn’t bother looking into that. But they took a long, hard look at the suit Cam wore to the Heisman ceremony!

This is why I don’t have an ounce of respect for saban or what he “accomplished” in his career. He is cheater and a bully, a downright tiny speck of a man. And I seriously question how any true Auburn fan can respect him either.

If nothing else, I wish people could take a step back and objectively ask the obvious question that begs to be asked: why only at alabama? But the answer doesn’t fit the “goat” narrative, so we just pretend his career started when his plane landed in tuscaloosa, and ignore the rest of his resume which puts him around Tommy Tuberville’s league.

And he's 72. I can't imagine running a program like Alabama at that age no matter how successful you've been in the past.