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re: The problem with the 4th and 31 defensive play call
Posted on 11/26/23 at 9:09 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Posted on 11/26/23 at 9:09 am to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:There's a stat that teams are something like 0-90 on 3rd and 4th down of 30 or more yards the last 2 years and AU just gave up the first one. Not that exactly but you get the drift.
You can replay that down 100 times with that trash defensive call and you’ll get the same result over and over and over.
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 9:20 am to AUFP91
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Guess we should have had all our receivers out there on that play, they are pretty good at knocking the ball down.
I chuckled at this.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 9:58 am to Scoper
Only 2 players at the line with one about 5 yards off, and none of the three is really making an effort to rush the passer. You can’t hate on the play call? It is the worst defensive call in football history. Thank goodness the Seahawks tried to throw on the goal line with Marshawn Lynch in their backfield or it would probably be the worst period.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:53 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Blizz, I agree so wholeheartedly. Rush 4, maybe 3, from the throwers throwing-arm to force him over.
Bad designed plan. They have their 5 6'-3" receivers out there to our 6'-0" DBs.
Bad designed plan. They have their 5 6'-3" receivers out there to our 6'-0" DBs.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:26 am to SagesSon
I’ve been back and forth on this and I’ve come to the conclusion that the blame falls squarely on the DBs shoulders. Roberts put them in position to be successful and the players didn’t do their job. The coaches can only put you in position to be successful. There were 8 DBs in the end zone!!! There isn’t any excuse, you just had to stay focused for one play and the game was yours.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:31 am to Etowah
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There were 8 DBs in the end zone!!!
Yet there was only one within 6 or 7 yards of where the ball was caught and he had his whole damn body turned looking at the fricking reciever.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:32 am to Etowah
Leaving a db one on one in that scenario is the opposite of putting them in a position to be successful, especially when the qb and receiver have infinity time to get set up in an advantageous position
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:33 am to RandySavage
Three guys followed one man into the middle. Puckett should have stayed outside with James. James should not have been face guarding in that situation either. Execution failed. Not excusing the call of only rushing two with a spy, should have at least had all three rush if not 4, but our back end failed at executing the play as called.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 11:34 am
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:34 am to RandySavage
A better play call would have been having all 11 in the endzone. 5 on the goaline and 6 on the back line. If he takes off and runs, everyone come up and make the tackle. If he gets in like that, I would tip my hat to Milroe and go about my life. The call was just plain stupid.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:37 am to GoCrazyAuburn
I understand but that's the problem with giving a quarterback forever to stand in the middle of the field, things break down in the back.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:41 am to RandySavage
Not disagreeing. We should have rushed more. Just pointing out the reason there was 1v1 coverage when there shouldn’t have been.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:59 am to RandySavage
I would have to see the whole play but I’m not convinced we were in man to man and even if we were you still had extra guys back there. That’s why I believe we were in position to be successful.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:01 pm to Etowah
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The coaches can only put you in position to be successful.
This is the point I’m making. They weren’t put in a position to be successful. Asking db’s at any level to cover sideline to sideline with ZERO pass rush for 10 plus seconds is a recipe for disaster. He could have waited 20 or 30 seconds to make that throw. It’s a do or die situation. That ball can only be thrown to the end zone! If he heaves it up under pressure and they get a lucky tip, it sucks but that’s football. That bullshite last night was embarrassing and if that’s best you can come up with, out of a timeout, you deserve to get beat. The fricked up part is if you’re honest with yourself you knew the ending of that game was coming before it happened. Hell even after it happened we had a guy running the ensuing kickoff out of the end zone to the 10 or 15 instead of taking it at the 35. It’s such low IQ football that it’s maddening. Instead of needing 20 or 25 yards to get into field goal range, frick it, let’s make it 50 or 60..
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:03 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Hell even after it happened we had a guy running the ensuing kickoff out of the end zone to the 10 or 15 instead of taking it at the 35.
I wasnt too mad about it. Kickoffs are unpredictable and he was an all american KO returner...last year.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:20 pm to jangalang
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I wasnt too mad about it. Kickoffs are unpredictable and he was an all american KO returner...last year
Again, you have to give yourself the best opportunity to win. What are the chances he takes that to the house? A touch back and starting at the 35 is a sure thing. 25 yards with 30 seconds left gives you a chance to kick a tying field goal to force OT. You can’t do that starting inside the 15 with no timeouts, and no real threats to pick up 60 yards to get in field goal range. Football is as simple or as complicated as you make it and we insist on making it complicated.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:21 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Why do you think touchbacks go to the 35?
ETA: I'm not saying bringing it out was the best idea but I doubt it's even in the top 100 of reasons we lost yesterday.
ETA: I'm not saying bringing it out was the best idea but I doubt it's even in the top 100 of reasons we lost yesterday.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:41 pm to Scoper
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I cant hate on the call by freeze …
they still got a 1on1 tho. I dont how that happened
I got nothing for ya.
The call was nothing short of abysmal. There’s no two ways about it.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:19 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Before yesterday , 4th and more than 30 was 0-90.
Breaking records again.
Breaking records again.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:30 pm to Scoper
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 3:24 pm to RandySavage
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Why do you think touchbacks go to the 35?
Ohh lawd I fat fingered the hell out of that a couple times didn’t I?
… point still stands though. Give yourself a chance, don’t make it unnecessarily difficult with stupid decisions. 
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