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re: The Madness isn't over yet...LET'S TALK COORDINATORS!

Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:36 am to
Posted by Tiger trace22
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:36 am to
Yes we can speculate and have fun with it but at the end of the day Harsin is going to hire guys he knows he can trust. It doesn't matter if we know any of his hires as long as he's successful. That's all that matters. I know recruiting is important but the transfer portal is gonna be full of guys this year. If Harsin puts a consistent product on the field this season then recruiting will take care of itself. With success his name will be established enough by seasons end to go into homes in the south and get the players he needs.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
18452 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:45 am to
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With success his name will be established enough by seasons end to go into homes in the south and get the players he needs.


I agree. This whole "needs SEC experience" thing is overrated. Yes, it's probably a good idea to have some on your staff with SEC experience, but it's not a requirement for the HC himself.

Saban had none when he went to LSU. Zero. And he won a MNC there.

Meyer had none when he went to Florida (he was a guy from Utah). And he won two MNC's.

I'm not saying Harsin will be those guys, just pointing out that a good coach is a good coach regardless of where he's from.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
43783 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:59 am to
LSU just hired a joke at OC.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:26 pm to
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LSU just hired a joke at OC.

Trying to recapture that 2019 magic.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:31 pm to
what's wrong with the hire?
They're simply trying to recreate the Brady magic from 2019.

Evidently these 2 guys were connected to him in one way or another.

Unless you're going after a already established successful OC (and most of them are looking for a HC job anyway, these days), then it's all a guess.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21707 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 2:26 pm to
Is Harsin ever gonna hire a staff?

I just took a peek at the Coaching Changes board and everyone is making moves except Auburn. And we were ahead of some of these other schools in the firing and hiring. This is seeming to take an awfully long time. Or am I just reading too much into it?
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47316 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 2:29 pm to
Seems to me like no one has really hired anybody until today. Maybe I’m wrong though.

And I don’t think we were really ahead of anybody in hiring/firing
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 2:45 pm to
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s Harsin ever gonna hire a staff?

I just took a peek at the Coaching Changes board and everyone is making moves except Auburn. And we were ahead of some of these other schools in the firing and hiring. This is seeming to take an awfully long time. Or am I just reading too much into it?




Why would we compare our timing on hires to anyone else?

It's simply inconsistent if you look at that board monitoring hires.

Even USC who hired Beamer back in early DEcember, STILL doesn't have a DC yet.

So why worry about how fast a HC moves to fill his staff? He really means nothing...

..And no, according to that board NOT everyone is making moves...
Posted by AUFan2015
Oneonta, Alabama
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 2:49 pm to
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Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 3:28 pm to
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Why would we compare our timing on hires to anyone else?


The early signing day has changed things but typically non head coaches change jobs after signing day. If I recall most contracts revolve around those dates as well for non-HC's
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4732 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 4:10 pm to
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Even USC who hired Beamer back in early DEcember, STILL doesn't have a DC yet.
My suspicion is they are waiting to see what happens with a couple of our defensive coaches. If we let TWill go I think he will get a strong look at that DC job.
Posted by Lee County Tiger
I Haz Sources
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 4:18 pm to
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If we let TWill go I think he will get a strong look at that DC job.



Makes sense. He's from Columbia originally.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3891 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 4:32 pm to
USCe would take Kevin Steele before T-Will. I can't imagine that Shane Beamer, a position coach, is leaving his defense to someone who's never been a DC before.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4732 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 4:43 pm to
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USCe would take Kevin Steele before T-Will. I can't imagine that Shane Beamer, a position coach, is leaving his defense to someone who's never been a DC before.
Last I heard Steele was getting looked at for some other jobs, no idea if he takes them though.

I think TWill being from Columbia is a big deal, they need big time recruiters and he would fill that role, and eventually someone has to take a chance on him.. SC is the type of job you have to take risk at in order to win. He would be a risk as a 1st time DC, but the reward could be very big.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3891 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 4:48 pm to
Steele's name has been attached to the USCe DC position since Harsin was hired. Thats the type of job he'll get because I don't think he's in line for any of these major DC positions. T-Will to USCe as a DC only makes sense under a tenured defensive HC. Look at what Beamer did with the OC spot - he kept tenured OC Mike Bobo. Considering that he's mainly been an offensive position coach in his career, I don't think that Beamer can hand the entire defense over to a guy with no experience.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4732 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 5:08 pm to
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Steele's name has been attached to the USCe DC position since Harsin was hired
And Michigan and a few others outside of the south.. I was a little surprised, but he's a good DC.

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T-Will to USCe as a DC only makes sense under a tenured defensive HC. Look at what Beamer did with the OC spot - he kept tenured OC Mike Bobo. Considering that he's mainly been an offensive position coach in his career, I don't think that Beamer can hand the entire defense over to a guy with no experience.
Could always hire experienced position coaches to help with his inexperience. Its basically what USC did with TRob last year. I don't think its a guarantee or anything.. I lean towards TWill coming back, but I do think its possible if we let him go that he goes to USC in some role. Maybe hire Garner as DC and TWill as LB/co-DC or something.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3891 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 5:22 pm to
Somebody needs to call the defensive plays. Thats the DC. T-Rob could follow Muschamp around because Muschamp is already a DC by trade. T-Will could obviously call the plays, but I seriously doubt that a highly inexperienced coach like Beamer is going to hand the entire defense over to an inexperienced DC; that seems like suicide in the SEC. Hiring Rodney Garner as DC doesn't solve that problem either because Garner has never been a DC himself (and for a reason).
Posted by TemperdTiger
Montgomery, AL
Member since Oct 2013
1998 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
18452 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 7:00 pm to
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Brad Larrondo, who spent the last 27 years in Boise State’s athletic department, has joined Harsin’s staff as an associate athletics director and football chief of staff.


Very interesting. How many associate AD's do universities typically have? Isn't that Tim Jackson's title right now?
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 7:06 pm to
We have like 13 Associate ADs.

Auburn Athletic Department
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