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Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:40 pm to AA7
The TO's and the points off TO's was a bit lopsided this evening.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:50 pm to AA7
Not a terrible effort for sure. Hate losing twice to those guys though. Need to sweep them next year
Posted on 3/3/21 at 9:27 am to CorchJay
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23 turnovers
And a lot of the first half ones were just sloppy decision making by players.
Without a good PG, guys that normally don't dribble are doing things they aren't comfortable doing.
I figured Alabama would be better defenders around the perimeter, therefore more TOs by Johnson and ofc Flanigan.
Flanigan was a no show...and that was disappointing.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 9:55 am to AuSteeler
The bright side of Flanigan is that he clearly has the potential to take over games. He's scores 20+ points in 5 games this year, and 16+ in 11 games. The downside is that he has the same number of 20+ point games as he does games where he scores 7 or less.
His turnover problems are also real. What's concerning is he averaged almost the exact same amount of turnover per game when Sharife was playing as when Sharife was out. He's averaging less TO's that Sharife, but that's just part of Sharife's game. He is going to turn it over a few times a game, but that's not so bad when he's averaging 20+ points and 8+ assists a game.
His turnover problems are also real. What's concerning is he averaged almost the exact same amount of turnover per game when Sharife was playing as when Sharife was out. He's averaging less TO's that Sharife, but that's just part of Sharife's game. He is going to turn it over a few times a game, but that's not so bad when he's averaging 20+ points and 8+ assists a game.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:55 am to AA7
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What's concerning is he averaged almost the exact same amount of turnover per game when Sharife was playing as when Sharife was out.
I get what you're saying but to his defense this year is hopefully an outlier. When Sharife was playing Flanigan was the back up pg because there was no powell. Without Sharife he has been mainly our pg. Flanigan was never going to be a success at pg and it's not incredibly fair to think he would be. Not defending all of his turnovers because he has had some bad ones with and without sharife but I will say there is a justification for some of them
Posted on 3/3/21 at 12:50 pm to thundercat_3
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Flanigan was never going to be a success at pg and it's not incredibly fair to think he would be. Not defending all of his turnovers because he has had some bad ones with and without sharife but I will say there is a justification for some of them
I agree with you and my post was poorly worded. Flanigan is absolutely not a primary ball handler and never will be. I was just concerned at how many times he turned it over when receiving a pass. I think it could be just trying to do too much to get himself out of a funk.
I think he could be very good coming off screens, cutting to the basket, and getting catch and shoot opportunities. He's just gotta stop walking with the ball after catching it, not being able to jump stop, and stepping out of bounds.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 1:03 pm to AA7
quote:Yeah but Sharife is a lottery pick averaging 4 TO's per game, 6'0" and no jump shot, so says a few people here. Pass the crack.
His turnover problems are also real. What's concerning is he averaged almost the exact same amount of turnover per game when Sharife was playing as when Sharife was out. He's averaging less TO's that Sharife, but that's just part of Sharife's game. He is going to turn it over a few times a game, but that's not so bad when he's averaging 20+ points and 8+ assists a game.
We needed Powell back something awful this year and a back-up G that can handle the basketball. One player with handles and we'd probably have 6-8 more wins this year.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 2:11 pm to alpinetiger
Hope the team improves a lot next year as this year seemed a lot like the Barbee years. Even in down years we should be better than we were this year.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 2:52 pm to AubieinNC2009
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seemed a lot like the Barbee years.
^uh, No. This is a ridiculous statement.
This team looks like a bunch of freshmen the best of whom was suspended and missed 10 games, the next guard suffered a concussion.
JT Thor is a player, but these guys are going from each being dominant to having to compete with men night after night.
Bruce will have us in position for another deep run in March Madness soon.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 3:38 pm to makersmark1
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^uh, No. This is a ridiculous statement.
This team looks like a bunch of freshmen the best of whom was suspended and missed 10 games, the next guard suffered a concussion.
JT Thor is a player, but these guys are going from each being dominant to having to compete with men night after night.
Bruce will have us in position for another deep run in March Madness soon.
Indeed.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 5:54 am to AubieinNC2009
I would normally agree (besides the Barbee comparison) as Bruce had definitely turned a corner with this program so it’s weird to go back to below .500. The reason for this below avg team is finally the Person punishment catching up with us. We self imposed a recruiting ban of a recruiting class that would now be our upperclassmen. Weirdly I think it’s gonna make for an even better next few years than we otherwise would have had though, so it will be worth it.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:10 am to auburnnyc94
We need a big man. I am not sure it is Stretch or Caldwell even though I like both’s energy.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:45 am to attalla
I don't think you can judge this team too harshly. Any team we've had in the last 5 years if they lost 2 of their best 3 or so players for extended periods of time wouldn't of had the success they experienced.
Heck, when we lost Mac arguably that teams 4th best player they went to pot in a hurry. Or imagine if Harper missed 14 games in a season where we won a title...I doubt we have that hardware.
If Powell and Coop played the entire season I suspect it would have been good for about 5-8 wins.
I try not to be hard on indivdual players but its fair to say we haven't seen much improvement in Jamal or at least not the consistent improved play this team needed. His 1st year reminded me of the early days of J'von but J'von progressed in the program much more noticeably.
Heck, when we lost Mac arguably that teams 4th best player they went to pot in a hurry. Or imagine if Harper missed 14 games in a season where we won a title...I doubt we have that hardware.
If Powell and Coop played the entire season I suspect it would have been good for about 5-8 wins.
I try not to be hard on indivdual players but its fair to say we haven't seen much improvement in Jamal or at least not the consistent improved play this team needed. His 1st year reminded me of the early days of J'von but J'von progressed in the program much more noticeably.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 6:49 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 8:59 am to Tigerman97
I agree with all that except about Jamal.. not sure what your expectations were but I think he did ok. He could’ve been more consistent but he definitely improved from last season, and we wouldn’t have won some of the games we did without his shot making. On the list of reasons why we weren’t more successful this season, the play of JJ has to be way down the list, imo..
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:02 am to attalla
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We need a big man
Well, we are getting one of the best in the country next season in Jabari Smith Jr.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:29 am to TigerProwl24
Kevin Durant is not considered a big man. ??. Jabari is more of a big 3 or 4 IMO
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:11 am to attalla
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Kevin Durant is not considered a big man. ??. Jabari is more of a big 3 or 4 IMO
I think he's a 4 that can easily play a stretch 5. Personally I would rather our starting 5 consist of shooters and have a guy like Cardwell come in off the bench or on standby if the other team has a dominant guy in the paint.
Our offense has been at it's best when we have a guy at the 5 (Anfernee) who can step out and knock down a three. Thor and Jabari are both 6'10 and could very well add an inch or two by next year. I think Jabari has a little bit more of a frame to put on an extra 10-15 pounds especially since he hasn't been in a college weight program, and I think his game translates better down low. He's got a complete offensive game, in that he can play with his back to the basket or front up very well. Thor is much better fronting the basket and his only real back to the basket move is his fadeaway (which is still a pretty shot).
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:25 am to attalla
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I think he's a 4 that can easily play a stretch 5.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:47 am to AA7
Yeah I'd like Jabari and Cardwell getting the bulk of minutes at the 5 next year. If Stretch stays around he's fine in a pinch but there is also the possibility of Thor bulking up a little and being a great smallball 5.
Jabari will also get a few minutes at the 4 alongside Williams and a little Thor.
Jabari will also get a few minutes at the 4 alongside Williams and a little Thor.
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