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Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:19 pm to Bigbens42
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:19 pm to Bigbens42
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KenPom is not "results" oriented (by results I mean wins and losses). It's not a poll and shouldn't be treated like one.
I'vealways advocated for a KenPom/analytics driven Strength of Record ranking
On the broadcast ESPN's SoR has us #6 while our BPI is like #25-30 or so
I think most AU fans would find that reasonable. We are a 20-30 caliber team whose grit has us playing like a #6 ranked team
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 11:20 pm
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Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:26 am to AUNashville
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How was the reception for BB?
As loud as I heard it all night. He was eating it up.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:40 am to rbWarEagle
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:17 am to Ross
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He had some pretty clutch shots in our NCAAT games where he just blazed right by someone and laid it in because he was just faster than the opponent and his ability to hit 3s was up there with anyone so I’m just going to disagree strongly here.
I'll try to provide context to my comments, but I don't want to over hash Harper because he was too clutch and critical to our program to hash up his weaknesses.
I have seen Jared make clutch shots. I know he can, but there is a difference (especially in the tourney) between what he can do and a true NBA talent like Chuma. My comments weren't meant to disparage Jared but to point out losing a guy like Chuma cost us a National title...we could argue we should have won it anyway. The simple proof of my comment is that Jared isn't able to play in the NBA at this point.
Losing Anfernee off the 2018 team easily cost us the outright regular season title and likely a seed that would have made getting a Sweet 16 trip easier.
Losing Okoro...if we did lose him would be the difference between a regular season title and probably a solid chance at a Sweet 16 run.
I agree we couldn't have lost Jared and been the same team, etc...but in each season mentioned the guy injured was the only person who could remotely bring what they brought to those teams. As good as Jared was last year the team really struggled in late game scenarios until we started actively running the O through Chuma like UTk ran it through Williams. The ability to score in that scenario is what Chuma brought...Jared certainly could take people but his height made the shots highly contested and unlike Chuma he wasn't as good at passing in that situation to an open man which is also a height related issue. Try to remember the 2019-2020 team before Chuma woke up offensively (catching it around the FT line and facilitating the O, driving, passing off his drives, plus his catch and shoot ability)...we were an above average team that could get hot from 3 and beat anyone until that point. When Chuma woke up we were the best team on the floor for over a month against elite competition.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 8:27 am
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:28 am to Tigerman97
tl;dr
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:46 am to Tigerman97
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My comments weren't meant to disparage Jared but to point out losing a guy like Chuma cost us a National title
Losing Harper or Brown would have also nearly guaranteed we'd not win the title
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The simple proof of my comment is that Jared isn't able to play in the NBA at this point.
Harper not playing in the NBA is because of his size/length to play D not scoring ability. Harper would cut it as a scorer
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the team really struggled in late game scenarios
We struggled as a team because we didn't pass the ball and didn't look for open 3FG shooters. Okeke thrived when we started moving/passing in the same way everyone else did
We went on 14-0 run vs UVA, the best defense in the country in the last 5 minutes of the game
We outscored UK in the final 15 minutes of our NCAAT game vs them with just Bryce/Harper for the most part
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:48 am to Tigerman97
That’s a whole lotta words to say ‘I don’t know why I’m talking about.’
Posted on 2/13/20 at 9:57 am to lowspark12
Okoro is on a crutch this morning per twitter
Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:10 am to Rig
Hopefully they injected all kinds of white blood cells and shite to make it heal faster
Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:29 am to Rig
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Okoro is on a crutch this morning per twitter
Baseball season
Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:39 am to Rig
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Okoro is on a crutch this morning per twitter
I would expect nothing less. I hope he gets treatment and we get him a wheelchair.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:40 am to Rig
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Okoro is on a crutch this morning per twitter
I’m sure they are having him put as little stress on it as possible. Someone get this man a jazzy scooter
Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:59 am to GenesChin
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Harper not playing in the NBA is because of his size/length to play D not scoring ability. Harper would cut it as a scorer
Hence, why losing Chuma in the tourney was a greater blow. You need that length and strength to get those toughest of baskets.
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We struggled as a team because we didn't pass the ball and didn't look for open 3FG shooters. Okeke thrived when we started moving/passing in the same way everyone else did
We went on 14-0 run vs UVA, the best defense in the country in the last 5 minutes of the game
We outscored UK in the final 15 minutes of our NCAAT game vs them with just Bryce/Harper for the most part
Just like in 2018 Brown and Harper could get hot and keep us in the game against anyone. Playing through Chuma allowed the team to transition to more complete squad that could handle games and maintain leads when we weren't shooting it like bama did last night against us. The team changed when the O went through Chuma and you are correct it's because it created better ball movement when we started working the ball through Chuma.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 11:02 am
Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:01 am to lowspark12
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That’s a whole lotta words to say ‘I don’t know why I’m talking about.’
Just look at the metrics from our team last season. Chuma's emergence was the difference between needing Brown and Harper to get hot and being able to play well in all aspects of the game. To suggest losing Chuma in the NCAA tournament was a loss we couldn't afford isn't crazy. It's crazy to think otherwise.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 11:03 am
Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:13 am to Tigerman97
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To suggest losing Chuma in the NCAA tournament was a loss we couldn't afford isn't crazy. It's crazy to think otherwise.
I mean we afforded it decently well when we beat a team in the elite 8 that had most recently curb stomped us WITH Chuma.
Now I'm not saying we were better without him, but I think Jared and Bryce were equally valuable.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:14 am to Tigerman97
quote:But we actually afforded it by beating Kentucky without him. And if it weren’t for a missed call and a few bounces, we’d have played for a championship. So I’d say that’s a stretch
To suggest losing Chuma in the NCAA tournament was a loss we couldn't afford isn't crazy. It's crazy to think otherwise.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:16 am to Tigerman97
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To suggest losing Chuma in the NCAA tournament was a loss we couldn't afford isn't crazy. It's crazy to think otherwise.
Pretty sure the part everybody had a problem with was when you basically said Harper couldn't hold an elite college guard's jock.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:32 am to jsmoove
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Pretty sure the part everybody had a problem with was when you basically said Harper couldn't hold an elite college guard's jock.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:36 am to Rig
Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:39 am to lowspark12
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Is it just me, or does it feel like opposing teams light it up from the outside in auburn arena?... idk if it’s the smaller size makes shooters more comfortable or what.... or maybe it’s just in my head.
We are just bad defensively.
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