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Tank is PFF #1 returning RB in CFB

Posted on 2/6/21 at 5:36 pm
Posted by SlimCharles140
Member since Dec 2011
1908 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 5:36 pm
He is special and I think will be worth 2 wins next year if he can stay healthy. I think we win 9+ games next year.
Tank is beast
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
7875 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 5:46 pm to
He’s truly great. Best we have had since Caddy imo
Posted by attalla
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2017
916 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 5:56 pm to
I think we could be 10+ with coaching. If receivers step up we have skill positions, Friend has his hands full tho
Posted by BigBlueAU
Opelika
Member since Jul 2013
1125 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 7:46 pm to
We could be 10+ if Bo takes the next step.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105377 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 7:52 pm to
I don’t believe we have the OL to win that many. I think it’s going to be a tough season. 7-8 wins is what I expect.

I would love to be wrong.

With that said

15-0 Ship!
Posted by kung fu kenny
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2017
1755 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:15 pm to
KJ and Tre Mason say hi. That 2013 season for Tre was unreal and people forget that. He was good for 5+ yards every time he touched the rock, and he lasted all season long.

Tank’s absolutely got the potential to be better than them, but still has to prove it. I hope he stays healthy. I love watching him play.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16532 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:14 am to
Tank is a beast for sure. I want to see how many players hang around after spring practice who we might pick up in the portal. We get an OT that can play LT. Maybe Killian is a stud who knows. I don't expect magic in the spring but will be able to tell if we take that workman type attitude or not. Will quickly be able to tell if Bo has started to take the next step and if the WRs are developing. What our LBs are rounding out to be. Lots of questions for me to be predicting with a new staff and offensive and defensive systems installed.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15746 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 6:47 am to
Tank is great.

However, winning this league starts in the trenches on both sides of the ball.

There is not a trick play that will fix a lack of size, experience, and skill upfront. Everything works better with big dudes upfront who are athletic and mean.

We need big time linemen with a nasty streak in them.
It is what it is.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 9:14 am to
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There is not a trick play that will fix a lack of size, experience, and skill upfront.


True. But have basic knowledge of blocking assignments and blitz pickup will help us next season. Too many times we saw a free rusher when we had enough guys to block because our previous scheme was even competent for middle school football.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:54 am to
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I don’t believe we have the OL to win that many. I think it’s going to be a tough season. 7-8 wins is what I expect.

I would love to be wrong.

With that said



I go with this.
Not just the OL issue, but putting in a whole new offense and defense and IF there is no spring practice or it gets cut short will leave us somewhat learning as we go.

Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10561 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 4:21 pm to
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think we could be 10+ with coaching. If receivers step up we have skill positions


Lines will suck, anything over 7 wins is a victory next year.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
7875 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:29 am to
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KJ and Tre Mason say hi. That 2013 season for Tre was unreal and people forget that. He was good for 5+ yards every time he touched the rock, and he lasted all season long.

Tank’s absolutely got the potential to be better than them, but still has to prove it. I hope he stays healthy. I love watching him play.



Totally agree on all points for the record. When I say he's the best we've had since Caddy I just mean in terms of potential.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17273 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:54 am to
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Lines will suck, anything over 7 wins is a victory next year.

I’ll be content with the team playing better in November than we did in September, win or lose.

We haven’t done that since 2017.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3598 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:31 am to
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KJ and Tre Mason say hi. That 2013 season for Tre was unreal and people forget that. He was good for 5+ yards every time he touched the rock, and he lasted all season long.



What people seem to forget about 2013 is Greg Robinson + Jay Prosch + Nick Marshall running threat. That's what made Tre Mason "good for 5+ yards every time he touched the rock". It was a dominant running system that clicked on all cylinders - in scenarios like that it's hard NOT to be successful as a RB. You know what else people forget about 2013?

Corey Grant: 647 rush yards, 9.8 yards per carry
Cameron Artis-Payne: 610 rush yards, 6.7 yards per carry

EVERYONE was "eating" on that 2013 offense. Tre Mason was great and a perfect fit for that offense, but his play was HEIGHTENED by the system and players around him. Period.

Tank is a better/more talented back than Tre. Had he been running as the bell-cow in that 2013 offense, you would have seen no drop-off in performance.

How are we in 2021 and people still don't understand that you can't compare RB's without comparing the systems that they are running in?
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10924 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:49 am to
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playing better in November than we did in September, win or lose.
Refresh my memory please...

... because I remember September with contempt lately.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10924 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:50 am to
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metafour
The good ole days.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17273 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 11:57 am to
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Refresh my memory please...

... because I remember September with contempt lately.

Perhaps you misunderstood - I meant I would like to see us improve from the beginning of the season to the end under Harsin - something that (save for 2013 and 2017) didn't happen under Gustav.

That matters more to me than wins/losses in 2021, because if the team manages steady game-to-game improvement in year 1 of a new staff, that bodes well for year 2 and beyond.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
7987 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:26 pm to
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That's what made Tre Mason "good for 5+ yards every time he touched the rock".


No doubt Tre had some talent surrounding him. But there were plenty of plays where Tre hit the line, got swallowed up, and somehow squirted out the other side for 3-4 yards. His ability to get yards when his upper body was inches off the ground, parallel, was special.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3598 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:42 pm to
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No doubt Tre had some talent surrounding him. But there were plenty of plays where Tre hit the line, got swallowed up, and somehow squirted out the other side for 3-4 yards. His ability to get yards when his upper body was inches off the ground, parallel, was special.


Right - he was talented, hence why he was a 3rd round pick. That wasn't the point. The point was to single out the silly narrative of attributing his 2013 production to him alone. It's silly because that run offense was so overpowered it bordered on video-game type shite. For every impressive run where he bought yards from nothing due to his balance and ability to fall forward, there were 2-3 runs where no one was even near him until he got 4 yards past the line of scrimmage. There is a narrative that he made that offense, when really he was just a very GOOD cog in it. It's not dismissive of Tre Mason to state that Tank Bigsby is a more talented back - which he is. He's bigger with more wiggle, and he's also a better receiver as well. Put Tank Bigsby in that 2013 offense and he'll dominate too.
Posted by Tigerpro2a
Huntsville, AL
Member since Sep 2018
626 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:55 pm to
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Right - he was talented, hence why he was a 3rd round pick. That wasn't the point. The point was to single out the silly narrative of attributing his 2013 production to him alone. It's silly because that run offense was so overpowered it bordered on video-game type shite. For every impressive run where he bought yards from nothing due to his balance and ability to fall forward, there were 2-3 runs where no one was even near him until he got 4 yards past the line of scrimmage. There is a narrative that he made that offense, when really he was just a very GOOD cog in it. It's not dismissive of Tre Mason to state that Tank Bigsby is a more talented back - which he is. He's bigger with more wiggle, and he's also a better receiver as well. Put Tank Bigsby in that 2013 offense and he'll dominate too.


Well said. Hell I think I could have ran for 1K yards in that 2013 offense...and I think it is safe to assume that what I lack in size I make up for being slow.
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