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re: So does Bo

Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:06 am to
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:06 am to
2003 and 2004 are a prime example of the difference coaching and talent make for the quarterback. For the past two years Bo had ok talent but horrible coaching, he's probably got better coaching but significantly worse talent.

If somehow we brought in a couple of NFL OL and WR from the portal next year I would be willing to bet Bo would have a senior year "improvement" similar to what Campbell experienced in 2004 when it all finally came together.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36596 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:23 am to
Well said. Replace Brahms and Council with studs, bring in a couple more receivers, and let’s go.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42572 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:53 am to
Bo's dad was a OC at GA Tech and Miami. He has had numerous QB coaches and OC's. He struggles with basic fundamentals. But per this board, it is never Bo's fault.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30863 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:01 am to
Most reasonable people aren't saying he is Peyton Manning or Drew Brees.

We are saying we have significantly bigger issues on offense than Bo Nix, he is in a position which makes it very difficult for him to succeed, and he is by far the QB that gives us the best chance to win right now.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42572 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:13 am to
Again, you just made an excuse for Bo
Posted by Tigerpro2a
Huntsville, AL
Member since Sep 2018
626 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:15 am to
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You’re right on the money. Bo playing for bama or uga would prob be a heisman candidate in all honesty. With the protection, coaching and wide outs playing for keeps i don’t see him not. It really is a shame we can’t get things together more to take advantage of his skill set.


I don't get this take at all. Would Bo be better with better talent around? Yes...but he would still be Bo. He would still be inaccurate. He would still miss wide open guys. He would still bail a clean pocket.

To act like any of those other pieces is going to make Bo into Mac Jones just isn't the case. Mac was successful at Bama because he had talent around him, but he also was one of the most accurate QBs I have ever seen play.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30863 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:17 am to
One man's excuse is another man's reason I guess. The last part is the only thing that really matters and that is he easily gives us the best chance to win compared to other QBs on our roster.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79275 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:17 am to
I'm 75% "want Bo back"

The reason being he's the only established QB on the roster and he's a competent QB if the team around him is good. He's easily the type who could win 10 games with an improved roster, even though I don't think he's ever going to be a QB defenses fear.

I'm 25% no, just because I don't think he's really a championship caliber QB so you could make the argument that hoping for a 9 win season next year and Outback bowl berth is meaningless. Such that we'd rather spend the time getting Geriner or whomever ready for later years and bigger objectives.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30863 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 11:02 am to
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I don't think he's really a championship caliber QB so you could make the argument that hoping for a 9 win season next year and Outback bowl berth is meaningless. Such that we'd rather spend the time getting Geriner or whomever ready for later years and bigger objectives.


I understand this line of thinking but imo we are in a position, and will be again next year, where we need to show recruits this coaching staff can win games. Unless we are willing to just totally burn the whole thing to the ground and start completely over I don't think this is the right strategy. With the transfer portal quick turn arounds are more possible than ever and if we could be competitive and win 9 games next year I think that would be a positive signal to the fanbase and potential recruits about the direction of the program.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 11:26 am to
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Now, I will always be a Jason Campbell fan, but in 2003 I was not sure!

But one of the things that strikes me is how little talent we have around our qb atm compared to then.

I think about 2003 --- we had at least three receivers on that team get in the NFL --- pretty sure they could at least catch sometimes. We had Cadillac and Brown on that team as well, for God's sake. We actually had an offensive tackle from that team to eventually go on to the NFL.

And Campbell still had a demonstrably worse season than the year before.

The point is not that Nix will match Campbell, but he can improve --- especially if he gets more talent around him.

At least, that is my hope.


I can remember sitting in the stands, and getting frustrated those years before Campbell's SR year.
I always thought of Campbell those 3 years as 'check down' Campbell, bc he always seemed to want to throw to his safer throws, bc he didn't want to throw it deep.
His wind up was kind of big, and it seemed he was always a tad late seeing the open WR. If not for our deep RB group and OL, we would have not been a very good offense.

But then his SR year, Campbell's confidence grew, he started to make clutch throws and throw it deeper, and was very good on play action passes. It just clicked for him.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79275 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 12:49 pm to
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I understand this line of thinking but imo we are in a position, and will be again next year, where we need to show recruits this coaching staff can win games. Unless we are willing to just totally burn the whole thing to the ground and start completely over I don't think this is the right strategy. With the transfer portal quick turn arounds are more possible than ever and if we could be competitive and win 9 games next year I think that would be a positive signal to the fanbase and potential recruits about the direction of the program.



I agree, I think it's an easier sell if it's year 6 of Gus than year 2 of Harsin trying to rebuild the program in his image. A 6 win year after a 6/7/8 win year is going to be a hard thing to gain momentum with.

And of course, it never happens like this in reality anyway. Players and coaches want to win and don't want to voluntarily do a rebuild if they can have a semi-competitive season. And in the college game where kids are here for a short time, it's something of a fan luxury to propose what I did - "let's forgo a reasonably good year and NY bowl to build for the future).
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36596 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 9:01 am to
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Bo is no better than he was first game against Oregon. No progress at all. I hoped this year he would progress without Gus, but he has not.

Wrong. Buy a clue.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/31/21 at 9:10 am to
I want him back and he will have a place in the NFL.

I think he comes back and has a kick arse senior year.

Look at his completion percentages. He doesn’t turn the ball over very much. He is growing into his potential right before our eyes. No way do I want him to go right when he is getting it.

Give me Bo next year.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28295 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 9:16 am to
I think he comes back. He could improve his draft stock tremendously with another good year. He may pick up some more NIL money also. I am sure he wants to be an NFL QB, but kid is living his dream right now.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
11026 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 9:32 am to
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Wrong. Buy a clue.


Wrong today. Not wrong when it was posted.

Glad he is now progressing and doing better.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6613 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 9:36 am to
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This year is what it is and he is most likely our best option right now. But, we need to move forward next year. We have to have progress at that position. It is the most important position on the field. Bo is no better than he was first game against Oregon. No progress at all. I hoped this year he would progress without Gus, but he has not.


Some of this clown show comes from those who sat in the stands in high school chasing the Quarterback's girlfriend, then went home empty handed after each game.

I enjoy reading the trash that comes from band members and bench sitters.

Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36596 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Wrong today. Not wrong when it was posted

Nah you were wrong then too. The only thing that has changed is his boys started making some plays too.

Who wants to move on from a veteran QB that is one of the most dynamic assets on offense and normally protects the ball extremely well? Get some perspective
This post was edited on 10/31/21 at 9:41 am
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 9:43 am to
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I don't think he's really a championship caliber QB


I think there's a good chance Bo will improve and be closer to a championship caliber QB than Stidham's weird fit playing in a Malxahn offense

I don't look at Corral from Ole Miss and think "Bo could never play like that. " Almost the opposite, I think Bo is only missing the consistency and confidence
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36596 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 9:50 am to
quote:

I think there's a good chance Bo will improve and be closer to a championship caliber QB than Stidham's weird fit playing in a Malxahn offense

Stidham would be playing like a pussy and turning the ball over if he had this year’s OL.

I don’t get y’all’s love affair with that guy. He had three good games and one of those was against pitiful Purdue.
Posted by attalla
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2017
923 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:01 am to
I liked stidham, but KJ’s emergence had as much to do with his success as anything. He struggled without him.
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