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IAmNERD
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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Even when he had a clean pocket, he would bail out over nothing

Yep. It was one of the more infuriating aspects of his game for me.


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LanierSpots
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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I'm not re-watching the game, but I can almost guarantee you that some of those 11 sacks were due to Stidham having horrible pocket presence and bailing out too soon.



I said that during the game thread but got roasted for it.


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AUtigR24
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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I'm not re-watching the game, but I can almost guarantee you that some of those 11 sacks were due to Stidham having horrible pocket presence and bailing out too soon.


Maybe but 90% of them were from our C getting bulldozed and or whiffing. There were times Stidham could not complete a 3 step drop before defenders were in his face.


Tigerman97
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
Stidham isn't an NFL QB...he might develop because he has the arm strength and when all is perfect he is accurate. He is missing every intangible you want in a QB at that level. Our OL was bad last season and to a lesser degree the season before, but Stidham made them look even worse more times than I care to remember. I am thankful for his effort at Auburn, but an honest assessment of his game can't be blamed on Gus, Chip or our OL.

However, it's the NFL draft and they'll put him in the underwear olympics and fall in love with something and he will get drafted on the last day. I doubt he'll make it but he could always develop the intangibles he lacks.
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CaptainBrannigan
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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because he has the arm strength and when all is perfect he is accurate.


Two things that can't be taught.



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allin2010
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
I think he will surprise in the NFL. His game will translate. Tom Brady was the 199th pick, 6th round He started as a Junior at Michigan but shared the job with Drew Henson (sophomore) to start his senior year.


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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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I think he will surprise in the NFL


I will be shocked if that happens.



Marines4Auburn
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
Some people forget how shitty some back up QBs are in the NFL. Stidham is better than Nathan fricking Peterman. Kyle Allen and Jeff Driskel started an NFL game this year. Tell me I’m wrong. If Stidham has a decent pass pro, he will be a worthy backup. Dudes biggest issue is happy feet and pressure in his face.


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Skyler97
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
I think something we are understating is the lack of consistency he’s had in coaching. I could be wrong, but has he not had a different OC every year he’s been in college? Hell he didn’t even play college football one year while he was at juco. I’m curious to see how he performs when he gets some consistency and is put into an offense that plays to his strengths


Marines4Auburn
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
2017 Stidham was a damn good QB in the toughest league in all of CFB. Poor play calling, young WRs, horrendous OL play (they got better as year continued). If I had a choice of 2017 Stidham vs the inconsistency we have at QB the past 10 years I take him.

I think of how good he would have been at OU with a great QB coach and OL. shite how about Stidham at QB for 2004 team? Obviously NOT saying he would have been better than Campbell.***


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LanierSpots
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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I think something we are understating is the lack of consistency he’s had in coaching. I could be wrong, but has he not had a different OC every year he’s been in college? Hell he didn’t even play college football one year while he was at juco. I’m curious to see how he performs when he gets some consistency and is put into an offense that plays to his strengths



What makes you think he will have consistent coaching in the NFL? Im not surprised that you are shitting on the coaching but lets face it, coaching does not help his constant over throws and his nerves.

Stidham is a decent passer. Yes he is better than most we have had but that is not saying anything lately. He is not NFL quality QB. Can he carry a clipboard and signal plays in? Yes. But that is not being a successful QB.

Plus, there is zero guarantee that he will have any kind of consistent coaching in the NFL either. Most bad players bounce around.

At some point, its not about coaching. Its more about whats inside. I dont think he has inside what he needs to be a successful NFL QB. He is a turnover machine and being careless with the ball is not bad coaching. Just bad playing

I like him. He gave us partly what we needed but not sure he is next level material



Tigerman97
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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He is a turnover machine and being careless with the ball is not bad coaching. Just bad playing


To me this is his biggest weakness and it is a big one for a QB.


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Skyler97
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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What makes you think he will have consistent coaching in the NFL? Im not surprised that you are shitting on the coaching but lets face it, coaching does not help his constant over throws and his nerves.


You have shitty eyesight for someone with “spots” in their name. I never said anything about the quality of his coaching, just that he went through a ton of OCs. What part of that is false?

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He is a turnover machine and being careless with the ball is not bad coaching. Just bad playing


Huh TIL that 13 picks in 848 passes is a turnover machine.


Tigerman97
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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Huh TIL that 13 picks in 848 passes is a turnover machine.



Check his fumbles...any he never liked to throw over the middle or a few other routes cause he tended to turn it over when he did.


GenesChin
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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he never liked to throw over the middle 


Gus' offense doesn't throw over the middle


Skyler97
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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Check his fumbles...any he never liked to throw over the middle or a few other routes cause he tended to turn it over when he did.



14 Fumbles in 211 rushing attempts. Not great, but I still wouldn't call him a turnover machine.

The reason Stidham didn't progress here is the fact he wasn't asked to imo. He was treated like a game manager and that's what he was. Who knows how he will turn out, but I think its laughable to act like how he performed the past two years are a truly great indication. Regardless of how anyone feels about Gus, Jarret was not a good fit for the offense.

Anyone that thinks coaching doesn't make a huge difference, I beg you to go watch Goff with Fisher vs with McVay.

And I'm not even saying that Gus is bad like fisher, just that it wasn't a good fit schematically.

Again, not saying Jarret is gonna be good, but the pro game is completely different than in college.


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Marines4Auburn
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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he never liked to throw over the middle


Some of that is the receivers failing to get seperation but I distinctly remember several huge 3rd down conversations in each of the wins that were slants and drags. I believe it was a slant to Seth Williams in the 4th QTR vs Washington. But I’m pretty sure it was this year those routes were incorporated so they might have left with Chip Lindsey.


LanierSpots
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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Huh TIL that 13 picks in 848 passes is a turnover machine.


He had some major turnovers and plenty of them. Its hard to throw a lot of picks when 90% of your passes are swing passes. He fumbled the ball like crazy and most of his turnovers were panic plays.

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I never said anything about the quality of his coaching, just that he went through a ton of OCs


My point exactly. Do you think he will go to the NFL and just have one guy for years? He is more than likely going to be a journeyman and have plenty of different OC's there as well. His issues were not coaching. Just poor play


I bet you are one of those people who claim bad up bringings are why a 25 year old murders people.




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CaptainBrannigan
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
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But I’m pretty sure it was this year those routes were incorporated so they might have left with Chip Lindsey.


shite. They left this year after the LSU collapse.


AUtigR24
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re: Rotoworld NFL quarterback ratings are in - and it's not good for Jarrett Stidham
We didn't give Stidham a chance. He couldn't audible, rarely had easy completions like slants. There is a reason he is on draft boards. Auburn did him no favors but he made the best of it. What some of you don't understand is the system is a big part of the results. Baylor, Okie State, Alabama all great examples. Plug in half decent qb into those offenses and profit. Take a 5* here tell him he can't audible, play behind a shitty oline with limited routes get mediocre results. We could of had Trevor Lawrence at qb this year and we would of been calling for the backup 4 games in.
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