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Rewatching the 2013 sec championship game

Posted on 6/24/24 at 10:45 pm
Posted by Scoper
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Posted on 6/24/24 at 10:45 pm
Can we please go back to running nascar. Wasnt thats Freeze's thing at Ole Miss as well? I might be completly off but it seems like the teams running super tempo has dropped the last 3-5 year.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:26 am to
That offense was a flash in the pan. We had a crazy fast/strong quarterback who could throw a deep ball and run the RPO as good as anyone. We had a motorgrader fullback. We had a running back that didn't seem to be able to lose yards on any play. We had a few receivers that caught the ball when we did throw it and a veteran offensive line.

I never understood why we didn't continue trying to build that mold every year but we never came close again.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50479 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:35 am to
The rules changed.


was nascar the swinging gate FG play?
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
13324 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:01 am to
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I never understood why we didn't continue
Oh Gus would have but the Saban rules put an end to that.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:34 am to
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Rewatching the 2013 sec championship game
Can we please go back to running nascar.




LanierSpots has entered the conversation


Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:56 am to
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Oh Gus would have but the Saban rules put an end to that.


Yup, Saban cried and got the substitution rules changed. After that, it was a wrap. Gus still would’ve been more successful afterwards if he’d have stuck with dynamic running QBs.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20428 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:28 am to
I never understood why Mizzou aligned the way they did in the box that game.

At times it was 3-3, sometimes 3-2.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9939 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:45 am to
By the time we finally got back to a talented QB with read option potential 5 years later.. Gus had decided signing OL was optional
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8939 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:49 am to
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Can we please go back to running nascar.


I always hated when Stan & Rod called it NASCAR. Just sounded stupid to me.

I felt like Nick and Tre could zone read and gain yards on anyone. Tre's ability to squirt forward 2 yds when he looked down was crazy.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69712 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:06 am to
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By the time we finally got back to a talented QB with read option potential 5 years later.. Gus had decided signing OL was optional



It is still a mystery. Getting the correct pieces was critical. Not easy to find but not impossible. I felt like he was getting hammered for not being balanced and he let that get the best of him.

I dont know what happened with the Oline recruiting. I just dont and wont believe that he gave up on it. It just got incredibly hard for us to land anyone. It was either the type of offense didnt prepare guys for the NFL or the negative recruiting. I just refuse to believe that someone with is experience and success just stopped recruiting one of the most important positions.


I dont even know that the rule changes killed it. Things probably could have been tweaked to work with the new rules if he had committed to staying with it and done the recruiting.


Either way, it was a thing of beauty to watch when it was working, while it was here.






Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:00 am to
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Can we please go back to running nascar.

The advantages were taken away with rule changes
Posted by kung fu kenny
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2017
2098 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 10:47 am to
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I never understood why we didn't continue trying to build that mold every year but we never came close again.


Nick Marshall is 1 of 1.

but yes, i never understood why he didn't try to go for a more mobile QB ever again. Jeremy Johnson ran in sand. Sean was shifty enough but definitely not a run-first type guy and pretty fragile. Stidham could run okay but he was nowhere near the type of dual threat Nick was even though he was touted as a DT style QB - imo he was more pro style who had just enough mobility to keep a defense honest with RPOs. Malik was probably the closest to emulating Nick but the timing just didn't work out because of Bo coming in. Joey Gatewood didn't pan out - couldn't even start on his HS team. Bo was a dual threat guy (supposedly), but we still ran a totally different offense than 2013 for whatever reason. never understood why Gus wanted to get away from what made him successful that season.
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
3118 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Can we please go back to running nascar. Wasnt thats Freeze's thing at Ole Miss as well? I might be completly off but it seems like the teams running super tempo has dropped the last 3-5 year.
Hard to find the right QB, hard to maintain OLine recruiting, and rule changes.

Guys want to hear how you're preparing them for a smooth transition to the league.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17331 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 12:39 pm to
Gus never recruited the OL.

That offensive line was all Gene Chiz.

The play calling and the tempo was all early Gus and it was a thing of beauty.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9939 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 1:20 pm to
I don't even think the '13-'14 OL's were all that amazing in the traditional sense, we just had some freaking maulers.. and NM/TMason's perfect execution of the read option had the defenses on their heels. It was difficult to be aggressive against us defensively.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19261 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 2:54 pm to
The rules were changed a couple years after 2013 and it slowed everyone down. Freeze was the first (in SEC) to do it in 2012 and then Gus's first season was 2013 and he ran his version of it. When Gus was OC under Chiz he wasn't allowed by Chiz to run it full time.

At the college level Chip Kelly was the first to do it at Oregon around 2006 or so. He was the coach who popularized it in D1 football.

I remember Spurrier's old Florida teams experimented with it back in the 90s. At random times (even with plenty of time left) they would enter no huddle, but it was something they did only occasionally.
Posted by Tickytiger
Auburn, AL
Member since Sep 2015
1408 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 2:55 pm to
Tre Mason's performance in that SEC Championship game was legendary.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20516 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:29 pm to
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Nick Marshall is 1 of 1.


I sincerely believe if Manziel hadn’t been there to steal the spotlight, Marshall would be considered an all time great dual threat QB. He was an absurdly talented athlete.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19553 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:41 pm to
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I sincerely believe if Manziel hadn’t been there to steal the spotlight, Marshall would be considered an all time great dual threat QB. He was an absurdly talented athlete.
i sometimes wonder what would have happened if someone other than Richt was HC at UGa when NM signed there

another HC with a different scheme might have recognized his potential under center rather than wasting a season as a DB

but then again his season at JUCO might have been what made the light come on for him
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69712 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:14 pm to
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i sometimes wonder what would have happened if someone other than Richt was HC at UGa when NM signed there

another HC with a different scheme might have recognized his potential under center rather than wasting a season as a DB



Nick Marshall broke all kinds of passing records in Georgia high school but honestly, he was a better fit at DB.

Yes, he was a magician for Auburn and Gus and I was one of his biggest fans and I still am. But past college, he was a DB. Georgia has always used more of a traditional QB.

Watching him play that position with the poise he did was so fun. Like some others, I just cant believe we did not do everything we could to manipulate that system and keep it rolling.

I remember people saying that the defenses figured it out. LOL. The last regular season game Marshall played was the 2014 Iron bowl and that offense put up like 5,000 yards against at top ranked Nick Saban defense who had been looking at that offense for two years. He didn't figure anything out.

So fun to watch. Me being more of a fan of the power running game, it was a thing of beauty.






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