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re: Portal Extravaganza - Jay walking edition
Posted on 12/16/25 at 7:45 pm to AUmemphis
Posted on 12/16/25 at 7:45 pm to AUmemphis
I know Im an old fart, but Im of the opinion, you hit the portal, you dont come back. Have the meeting and tell them yes or no. If they are "announcing" they will enter the portal, that day they are kicked out of the dorm, figure out your status of grades leaving middle of semester. Thats it get out, you are a cancer to the team.
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:11 pm to Beachbum87
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Dude he is already in the portal
I should buy a lottery ticket.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:23 pm to smuphy72
Crawford's season stats:
15 tackles
4 pass deflections
1 interception
That's worth $1 million?
15 tackles
4 pass deflections
1 interception
That's worth $1 million?
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:49 pm to jvilletiger25
Cobb was injured and if we had any depth wouldn't have been playing in the iron bowl. If you want to put that on nix then you do you. Still hope he sucks a fat one at bama
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:39 pm to AU_ATL5
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15 tackles
4 pass deflections
1 interception
That's worth $1 million
No, it isn't, in my opinion. The paid boards are unreadable. They are losing their minds. I thought Zac was going to pass out on his live show...
eta: there are actually quite a few over there who agree that he's not worth that much.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:08 pm to AU_ATL5
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15 tackles
4 pass deflections
1 interception
That's worth $1 million?
Yes. He's in correct position so the ball doesn't get thrown his way as much. He was probably our best DB this year. How much do you think it will cost to get an SEC starting level CB who is proven in the portal? Any less money and you will be looking at guys moving up a level and crossing your fingers they are better than Raion Strader or Taye Seymore.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:40 pm to AU_ATL5
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Crawford's season stats: 15 tackles 4 pass deflections 1 interception That's worth $1 million?
You ever wonder why Carlos Rogers was drafted so high in spite of a dearth of stats his senior year?
Learn the term “shutdown corner.” Offenses knew better than to test that side of the field.
ETA: you can’t exclusively measure a DB by stats, especially one that’s on the field every defensive snap. If they’re playing well you’d expect them to record little if anything in the statbook.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:37 am to jt33
I would be curious to read the professional game evaluations of Crawford this season.
They're probably available, but after a quick search, this is all that I found:
"During the 2025 college football season, Auburn cornerback Jay Crawford was targeted frequently as a sophomore starter. Reports noted Crawford was "thrown at a lot" early in the season, particularly as opponents often preferred to test him rather than fellow standout corner Kayin Lee."
So, at least early in the season, our opponents considered Crawford to be our weakest cornerback.
I would also add that we have to stay within our budget. If we have $30 million for roster management, then let's guess that the defense gets about half, $15 million.
We need to pay our 11 starters. We need to pay the 11 second teamers. We need to pay the third+ teamers that we believe have potential. We also need to pay the incoming signees. And we will need money for the portal signees in January.
So if we have $15 million for the defense, and we have all of those players that we'll need to pay, do we really want to pay Crawford $1 million (almost 7% of the budget for the defense)? If we do, then fine, but that obviously leaves less money than we probably anticipated for all of the other defensive players.
For the people who want us to pay Crawford $1 million, I'd be curious to see how they'd pay out the other $14 million to all of the other defensive players, high school signees, and eventual portal signees.
They're probably available, but after a quick search, this is all that I found:
"During the 2025 college football season, Auburn cornerback Jay Crawford was targeted frequently as a sophomore starter. Reports noted Crawford was "thrown at a lot" early in the season, particularly as opponents often preferred to test him rather than fellow standout corner Kayin Lee."
So, at least early in the season, our opponents considered Crawford to be our weakest cornerback.
I would also add that we have to stay within our budget. If we have $30 million for roster management, then let's guess that the defense gets about half, $15 million.
We need to pay our 11 starters. We need to pay the 11 second teamers. We need to pay the third+ teamers that we believe have potential. We also need to pay the incoming signees. And we will need money for the portal signees in January.
So if we have $15 million for the defense, and we have all of those players that we'll need to pay, do we really want to pay Crawford $1 million (almost 7% of the budget for the defense)? If we do, then fine, but that obviously leaves less money than we probably anticipated for all of the other defensive players.
For the people who want us to pay Crawford $1 million, I'd be curious to see how they'd pay out the other $14 million to all of the other defensive players, high school signees, and eventual portal signees.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 1:51 am
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:33 am to AU_ATL5
You are speaking as if we have to budget what we spend rather than emotional basket cases every time someone hits the portal.
If he wants a million, where does it come from in that room? Chop some money off Newboy and Winters and expect them to stay?
I dont think some realize its probably not 30 mil, its a little less, but 20 million of that is revenue share THAT EVERY SEC SCHOOL HAS. That means we raised the "ante" for every friggin kid, we didnt get 20 million that no one esle has to negotiate with.
If he wants a million, where does it come from in that room? Chop some money off Newboy and Winters and expect them to stay?
I dont think some realize its probably not 30 mil, its a little less, but 20 million of that is revenue share THAT EVERY SEC SCHOOL HAS. That means we raised the "ante" for every friggin kid, we didnt get 20 million that no one esle has to negotiate with.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:35 am to AU_ATL5
So you wanna win the SEC with a TEMU version of last year's defense? Good luck with that.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 8:17 am to BigBlueAU
Our early defense was helped by how terrible our O was. Our real D was somewhere Freeze and DJ as HC. No one is paying 25M for a D. You pay him that, then everyone would want it.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 8:54 am to BigBlueAU
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So you wanna win the SEC with a TEMU version of last year's defense? Good luck with that.
If Durkin believed that Crawford was irreplaceable, don't you think that he would be advocating to pay whatever his demands are to keep him here? Xavier Atkins by comparison is going to be paid to keep him here.
Crawford would be a loss, but some of you seem to forget that Auburn has already lost two arguably better CB's over the past ~2 seasons, and yet I haven't heard anyone bring their names up or cry about their departures. Colton Hood (who is at Tennessee now) is getting 1st round buzz in this upcoming draft, and Keionte Scott was a Thorpe Award semifinalist and 2nd team All-American (and I believe PFF's highest graded CB in the nation).
Its next man up, period. You cant just capitulate and bend over every time one of your "good" players wants more money than you think they are worth.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:02 am to metafour
We got fans that are more emotional than any woman alive. He is not worth 1 million, period. I swear we have middle school girls posting. Golesh would probably tell you to grow a freaking pair.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:29 am to AUIH1
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We got fans that are more emotional than any woman alive. He is not worth 1 million, period. I swear we have middle school girls posting. Golesh would probably tell you to grow a freaking pair.
I really don't understand. Do some of these guys not follow pro sports at all? We're in the midst of MLB free agency and the World Series runner up Blue Jays are hardly a guarantee to be bringing back Bo Bichette at his asking price. Kyle Tucker is leaving the Cubs, etc., etc. You value your players internally, and if you think you can use the money better elsewhere then you move on and make peace with it.
Our fans seem to be of the opinion that every player on our roster is deserving of a hefty raise if it means keeping them here, which seems puzzling given that we really didn't win many games.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:57 am to metafour
If Crawford was a true elite lockdown guy then yes pay him. He was our best CB but let’s not act like he was the next Carlos Rogers.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:29 am to metafour
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ts next man up, period. You cant just capitulate and bend over every time one of your "good" players wants more money than you think they are worth.
I have no idea who Durkin is advocating for or against. I do know that this team is on a historic losing streak. So there is no decision or indecision that is beyond critique.
I also know that fans had all kinds of complaints about Kayin Lee this year. How much better would the defense have been with Hood or Scott opposite Crawford? Sometimes you have to pay the "we suck again" tax to keep your best players.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:36 am to AUIH1
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We got fans that are more emotional than any woman alive.
Sounds like you attract the wrong women hoss. Step your game up. Crawford is worth whatever the market will pay. I have no clue what that is. I know he is our closest thing to a shut down corner. You wanna gamble on the portal to find something half as good? I see why you have women problems.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:25 am to BigBlueAU
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I have no idea who Durkin is advocating for or against
Neither do I, but he clearly isn't advocating too hard in this case. And this is the player's immediate coordinator. Do you suppose that you know more than Durkin on the replaceability of the players he coaches?
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Sometimes you have to pay the "we suck again" tax to keep your best players
Do you? And where does this end? Give me a player on the current roster who you draw the line with. Is it Amaris Williams? Melendez? From what I've seen so far from the "roster retention" crowd, there are upwards of 20+ players who apparently deserve blank checks handed to them to keep them here. 20+ players that you apparently cant lose...off a 5 win team. The idea of giving ~1/4th of your losing roster pay increases is hilarious in its own right.
And you miss the point. If Tennessee can find Hood from Colorado (who was better than Crawford this season and who ended up at Colorado because Auburn initially didn't care much to keep him around), then Crawford clearly isn't some irreplaceable piece. This a good CB, its not the best CB in the conference or even close to it. Keionte Scott was terrible at Auburn last season, and elite at Miami this season. Good players are available, and this overrating of the current roster/fear of the Portal isn't even supported by the results that are shown in the Portal.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 11:26 am
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:26 am to BigBlueAU
Been married 38 years to a fellow AU grad chief. Don't be tellin me shite about stepping my game up.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:32 am to AU_ATL5
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For the people who want us to pay Crawford $1 million, I'd be curious to see how they'd pay out the other $14 million to all of the other defensive players,
Lot of these people never have to determine big budgets & if they do then I don't understand how they just think money comes from thin air. Payroll is a big part of budgets for departments & companies. It needs to make sense.
Also hope our contracts have a payback penalty if needed.
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