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Posted on 5/13/23 at 6:15 am to
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 6:15 am to
Auburn offered Jackson State WR Shane Hooks

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Hooks, who is listed at 6-foot-4 and 205 pounds, led JSU last season in receptions, receiving yards and touchdown receptions. He finished with 66 catches for 775 yards and 10 touchdowns. He had two touchdown receptions in four different games.


Grad transfer with 1 year left
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 8:32 am to
Big target
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 8:43 am to
Question for the board.

A kid transfers to Auburn. If it does not work out and he wants to transfer (2nd transfer) he has to sit out a year if its Power Five.

Iver heard it mentioned on podcasts that if the kid is an undergrad and it does not work out, we are "stuck" with him. There is no rule regarding this is there? Im assuming they mean the kid does not want to sit if he transfers again and does not want to move down in schools, but that is not Auburn's problem from a rules standpoint is it?
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 10:27 am to
It means even if he's not on your team the scholarship still counts against you until he's out of eligibility.
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:06 am to
I thought scholarships were year to year. You’d only be “stuck” for one year
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:13 am to
Normal scholarships are generally year to year. Some schools offer 4 years. This is a special rule they added to help slow down the amount of transfers. Now if someone transfers in they are on your books no matter what until they are out of eligibility.

So yes, with a grad transfer with 1 year left to play, you are only on the hook for a year.

However with someone like Montana Craig who has 2 years of eligibility left, you would on the hook with him/his scholarship for 2 years.

I might have a few small details wrong, but that's generally how it works now.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 2:16 pm to
I’m pretty sure once a transfer like Finley re-enters the portal the university is absolved from the financial aid obligations right?


Otherwise yeah, the institution has to honor the financial obligation for as long as the player has NCAA eligibility.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 2:52 pm to
Thanks for clarifying for me jt33 and jang, appreciate it.
This post was edited on 5/13/23 at 4:01 pm
Posted by AUFan2015
Oneonta, Alabama
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 9:07 pm to
Casey Poe will OV June 16-18 per JLee

Others that will be OVing that week include:

WR Nick Marsh

DL Justin Greene

IOL Preston Taumua

OT Kevin Heywood

OT Eagen Boyer was supposed to OV that weekend, but has since committed to Penn State so unsure if he will visit or not
This post was edited on 5/13/23 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 9:10 pm to
Starting to believe the bond he has with Jake Thornton is going to win here
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:15 am to
This rule change with unlimited official visits for the prospects, I dont understand the reasoning. When the school had a limited number and the prospect could only take five, you knew both were serious, now its a lot more questionable. Guess its a good thing we arent one of the Cali schools or Hawaii
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:17 am to
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This rule change with unlimited official visits for the prospects, I dont understand the reasoning.


It's just not fair these 17-18 year old kids get to be treated like kings by only five schools of their choosing across the country as they try to decide which one to use for free tuition (with little to no actual school work involved), food, clothes, housing, trainers, tutors, weight rooms, on top of 6-7 figure salaries for a year before they enter the porter to sell to the highest bidder all over again as soon as they can.

To suffer these indignities and modern day slavery, because they can run fast, they also deserve unlimited free trips to wherever they want to go however many times they want to go. If you can't understand that, you're a racist.

Happy Mother's Day
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 9:20 am
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:30 am to
How good are we at projecting 15-16 year olds?

How early are we evaluating talent now for college recruiting? Is it 15-16 years old or even younger?

some guys bloom late.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19308 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 10:38 am to
I saw a show about recruiting many years ago and there was a guy who did coaching clinics for elite kids, very elite. He said there are no restrictions on when scholarships can be offered and they asked him the youngest, and he said one of the kids in his camp was offered a full ride when he was three days old. Course his dad played pro ball on the OL for years and his alma mater was the one offering the scholly.

The interviewer said "but still there is no guarantee the newborn is gonna grow up to be his dad's size. The coach said....."Well he was nearly 13 pounds when he walked out of the womb".
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 10:49 am to
quote:

How good are we at projecting 15-16 year olds?

How early are we evaluating talent now for college recruiting? Is it 15-16 years old or even younger?

some guys bloom late.
Some guys can bloom VERY late haha. Played with a guy in college whose dad played in the NFL. Graduated HS slightly young as a 6'1" 195 linebacker. Grew to 6'3" 240ish and got some NFL looks... He probably wouldn't have played at my school if he had his growth spurt in HS.

On the official visit stuff - who really cares how many the recruits go on? It's fun for them, it's barely an expense for the schools in the scheme of things, and honestly probably gets us more OVs than we might otherwise get while we're on the rebound.
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 5:46 pm
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19308 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 11:30 am to
The schools are limited on the number we can offer, thats were it can hurt us, thinking a kid is generally interested and burning our officials.

Someone on here can help, it used to be 56 I think, what is it now with all these rule changes. This period is an anomaly given the fixing of the roster, but in a normal year going forward what can we expect, 30 or more signees? With 56 officials thats a heck of a hit rate to try and achieve.
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

The schools are limited on the number we can offer, thats were it can hurt us, thinking a kid is generally interested and burning our officials.

Someone on here can help, it used to be 56 I think, what is it now with all these rule changes. This period is an anomaly given the fixing of the roster, but in a normal year going forward what can we expect, 30 or more signees? With 56 officials thats a heck of a hit rate to try and achieve.
Ohhhh.... that makes more sense. I didn't realize the players have unlimited while the schools have a cap. That seems weird.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19308 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:02 pm to
I didnt either Hunter, I just found out when they mentioned that Freeze was allowed to let kids who had visited on an official revisit only because of the head coaching change.

It makes sense, otherwise you would be handing out bling every week to top prospects, its the unlimited number of visits a recruit can take (just not to the same school twice) that could lead to schools burning visits on kids who mislead them.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34588 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:30 pm to
Unlimited for recruits is new. Schools are capped for now but it’s been rumored there could be an increase

I’m guessing they’re gonna just see what happens then adjust next year. I don’t think it changes the equation much for Auburn as of now
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17931 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

He said there are no restrictions on when scholarships can be offered and they asked him the youngest, and he said one of the kids in his camp was offered a full ride when he was three days old.



Coach Dye extended an offer to Prince William when he was born.

Prince William offered scholarship
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 11:54 pm
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