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Microcosm of AU biggest offensive problems all in one play
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:51 am
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:51 am
Speaking of Brahms and his problems at center, here is a link to a video put out by Jordan Rodgers who dissected just one play from the AU/GA game.
It was an eye opener to say the least...
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It was an eye opener to say the least...
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 11:14 am to AuSteeler
Yikes
Posted on 10/9/20 at 11:27 am to AuSteeler
It is amazing to me that after 7 solid years of watching Malzahn's offense that anyone is surprised we are schematically inept. Sooner or later it CAN'T be the coordinator's fault.
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 11:31 am
Posted on 10/9/20 at 11:37 am to AuSteeler
It happens every year...
An actual football person with some clout in the media trashes Gus for his offensive ineptitude after a terrible loss.
Nothing changes, fricking Groundhog Day.
An actual football person with some clout in the media trashes Gus for his offensive ineptitude after a terrible loss.
Nothing changes, fricking Groundhog Day.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 11:49 am to BuckFama334
I wish someone would break down Jordan Rodgers' broadcaster/sports announcing abilities. It'll be as brutal as breaking down Gus' schemes
Posted on 10/9/20 at 11:58 am to The Nino
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I wish someone would break down Jordan Rodgers' broadcaster/sports announcing abilities
On the segment I watched, I thought he illustrated the personnel exactly how they were aligned by Gus/Chad.
I thought he Illustrated the exact routes that were executed.
Further I thought he explained how the personnel were not used to their strengths. He broke down who might have been better to clear space for a manbeater by a faster player. The combinations of routes were fine. We selection of personnel for those routes was not.
Lastly, he showed that we got beat upfront not just physically, but from a lack of understanding basic protections. The center slid to a side that was already protected creating a free run on the other side.
Jordan did an excellent job describing what happened on the play and was much more complimentary than many people would have been.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:00 pm to WillyB99
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It is amazing to me that after 7 solid years of watching Malzahn's offense that anyone is surprised we are schematically inept. Sooner or later it CAN'T be the coordinator's fault.
But that looked like something Morris drew up. 5 wide on 3rd and short?
Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:03 pm to makersmark1
quote:I didn't watch the video, I'm sure it was spot on. I'm talking about his gameday broadcasting/announcing. He routinely doesn't know the teams' players, mispronounces names, can't figure out downs/yards.
Jordan did an excellent job describing what happened on the play and was much more complimentary than many people would have been.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:04 pm to jangalang
quote:Yeah, Gus would have run it up the middle for 2 yards
But that looked like something Morris drew up. 5 wide on 3rd and short?
Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:14 pm to makersmark1
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On the segment I watched, I thought he illustrated the personnel exactly how they were aligned by Gus/Chad.
I thought he Illustrated the exact routes that were executed.
Further I thought he explained how the personnel were not used to their strengths. He broke down who might have been better to clear space for a manbeater by a faster player. The combinations of routes were fine. We selection of personnel for those routes was not.
Lastly, he showed that we got beat upfront not just physically, but from a lack of understanding basic protections. The center slid to a side that was already protected creating a free run on the other side.
Jordan did an excellent job describing what happened on the play and was much more complimentary than many people would have been.
THat's the main thing I got out of it too.
I still have questions.
was Bo told to make adjustments and let the line know who was coming(the ILB)?
Does Brahms call out line calls, and simply is having problems making the right adjustments for the OL? His look and the OL's blocking was never going to work.
Is this on Morris for having a good scheme but not putting the right WRs in the places that have better success on execution?
This play like many never had a chance, but blocking correctly allows even bad play calling to succeed, if the QB can have time to go through his progressions.
And I could care less How Rodgers does on broadcasts. His analysis and use of visuals is very good on his twitter.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 1:14 pm to WillyB99
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Sooner or later it CAN'T be the coordinator's fault.
Or the quarterback.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 1:17 pm to makersmark1
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but from a lack of understanding basic protections.
I think this is the biggest issue, and his pointing out that any decent experienced QB would make that read leading him to believe things are pre-determined and our QBs have little to no control or ability to make adjustments. This lack of QB coaching and development has been evident for years but this breakdown kind of highlighted it perfectly.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 1:20 pm to RandySavage
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lack of coaching and development has been evident for years but this breakdown kind of highlighted it perfectly.
Applies to many positions. Not just QB.
I know recruiting linemen is the hardest part. There are only so many guys that are 6’4” and 300 who are athletic and smart. We’ve got to find a way to develop players to compete with the best.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 1:22 pm to AuSteeler
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I still have questions.
was Bo told to make adjustments and let the line know who was coming(the ILB)?
Of course he wasn't told to make adjustments.
What part of a Gus Malzahn offense from any year has indicated that there is flexibility to change things on the fly? This might be Chad Morris calling plays, but its still going to be a Chad Morris offense implemented on top of Malzahn's fundamentals.
This is the fundamental problem with "system" guys. There is no versatility or adaptability, which is why once Malzahn's gimmick was solved, he's been a completely average to below average offensive coach. Our entire emphasis is on running the play as its been designed beforehand and practiced; its far too scripted so you'll see pass plays with guys running routes who aren't even options to get the ball. Actual offensive guru's...guys like Joe Brady, Lane Kiffin, etc. know how to set up and counter the defense as they see it, just like Jordan Rodgers says.
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 10/9/20 at 1:27 pm to RandySavage
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I think this is the biggest issue, and his pointing out that any decent experienced QB would make that read leading him to believe things are pre-determined and our QBs have little to no control or ability to make adjustments. This lack of QB coaching and development has been evident for years but this breakdown kind of highlighted it perfectly.
Everything is predetermined. Even when we were running the QB read-option with Marshall, there were blatant plays where it was obvious that even THAT part of the offense was scripted. Like the entire "read-option" part was window dressing - the play was either a designed QB keep, or a designed RB run.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 1:29 pm to metafour
Have to have options.
I don’t understand why he insists on running the ball or receiver into the teeth of the defense.
I don’t understand why he insists on running the ball or receiver into the teeth of the defense.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 2:36 pm to metafour
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This is the fundamental problem with "system" guys. There is no versatility or adaptability, which is why once Malzahn's gimmick was solved, he's been a completely average to below average offensive coach. Our entire emphasis is on running the play as its been designed beforehand and practiced; its far too scripted so you'll see pass plays with guys running routes who aren't even options to get the ball. Actual offensive guru's...guys like Joe Brady, Lane Kiffin, etc. know how to set up and counter the defense as they see it, just like Jordan Rodgers says.
And Steve Sarkisian. THese type guys actually force the QB to read defenses with options off the initial play.
The key for all these types of OC is unpredictability, knowing how to force the D into certain formations, and then giving the QB those options to find the hot read or open WRs.
I am sure we are doing the same.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 2:42 pm to makersmark1
I think in the game thread and after I pointed out Brahms lack looking at possible blitzes. That’s not a break down of what an offense is doing that’s just a failure on offense period. The play was over so quick because of the man running free to the backfield Jordan doesn’t know Seths Route he was coming open on the slant that area that had an opening. But the play was over before any route was completed.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 2:54 pm to CorchJay
Also on The Who is covering who that determined by the defense not the offense. If you swap any body to a different lineup on the field they just swap defenders on the outside. Obviously by the linebacker walking outside the numbers to cover Tank. He breaks down the play pretty good but there was no play because of the man in the backfield. I know before that the center called protection not the QB. But agree Bo should know and possibly did know where pressure was coming from therefore he slid right after the snap.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 3:29 pm to The Nino
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Yeah, Gus would have run it up the middle for 2 yards
Agreed. Not saying Gus would have done better but Morris called a shitty game.
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