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re: Malzahn is a one trick pony

Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:39 pm to
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:39 pm to
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Someone mentioned in another thread that Gus gets none of the credit and all of the blame from fans. I'd say thats pretty close to true. I'd say there's got to be a middle ground somewhere.

Could've said the same thing for Lashlee before our winning streak.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:41 pm to
Gus said last year he wasn't as involved and he needed to be more hands on. So who exactly was involved last year?

Seriously, there doesn't seem to be a clear answer who does and does t deserve credit. Except herbie handcock, guy has made improvements and I was wrong on him
This post was edited on 10/30/16 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:43 pm to
I think Lashlee called plays last year. None of us really know though.
Posted by PatDyesPants
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:45 pm to
I will note that Gus seems much more relaxed and willing to talk to fans and media since turning the reigns over to RL. Perhaps his mood was causing people to coach / play tight. Just guessing.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:28 pm to
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Gus seems much more relaxed and willing to talk to fans and media since turning the reigns over to RL.


Winning has a way of putting you in a good mood. I noticed how much different his presser was last night as opposed to earlier in the year.
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:29 pm to
didnt embarass myself on the internet today

today was a good day
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:38 pm to
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The offense is fine with White. Especially if the defense keeps playing this way.




Told you.
Posted by PrisonMike
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:59 pm to
I have serious doubts about the spin that Gus is now an idiot or Rhett is a heretofore undiscovered genius.

Gus seems like one of those really intelligent guys that also has a bad habit of micromanaging everything. If he'd instruct his people and then back off and let them execute the game plan, he'd be fine (which is what I think we are seeing now).

But the problem is his wont to micromanage every little detail, even changing his mind twice before the snap based on esoterica that even his hawks in the booth don't see. I think we've seen the frustration that results from that with the players and the coaches in the past.

I know guys like Gus. They are incredibly smart, and it's hard to argue with them because they see a lot more details than most and can process them quickly. But they are also hard leaders to follow.

It's good that Gus is learning to back off a little. Auburn has has some bad game managers in the past. Hopefully, Gus can refocus his energies on being the best General we've had on the sidelines in a while.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 8:59 am
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 11:19 pm to
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I have serious doubts about the spin that Gus is now an idiot or Rhett is a heretofore undiscovered genius.




Has nothing to do with being a genius. It has everything to do with Gus and co stopping with trying to reinvent the qb position and picking 1 guy and sticking with him. White has become more effective because we arent yanking him out of the game on first or second down to run gimmick plays only to reinsert him after we've dug a third and long hole. Amazing how 1 qb is better than 5
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:26 am to
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Has nothing to do with being a genius. It has everything to do with Gus and co stopping with trying to reinvent the qb position and picking 1 guy and sticking with him. White has become more effective because we arent yanking him out of the game on first or second down to run gimmick plays only to reinsert him after we've dug a third and long hole. Amazing how 1 qb is better than 5


It also has a ton to do with the oline going from struggling to get in the way of guys to pushing the opposing front 7 in the other direction. A monkey can call plays when you win the point of attack.
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:55 am to
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Meh, OP wasn't wrong. Gus got really stale and predictable. The switch to Rhett saved this program.


Do we pay Rhett after this season? Do we fire Malzahn and hire Rhett as our new HC
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 9:30 am to
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It also has a ton to do with the oline going from struggling to get in the way of guys to pushing the opposing front 7 in the other direction. A monkey can call plays when you win the point of attack


their struggles were due in large part to having to adjust down by down to three different offenses with three different qbs. There was no rhythm to what we were doing offensively. Going with one qb and shuffling the line got everyone in sync and now it's clicking like a well oiled machine.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 9:54 am to
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their struggles were due in large part to having to adjust down by down to three different offenses with three different qbs. There was no rhythm to what we were doing offensively. Going with one qb and shuffling the line got everyone in sync and now it's clicking like a well oiled machine.


In general I disagree with that...though I see some elements of why someone would feel that way. Against both Clemson and A&M the oline got man handled. It wasn't a scheme issue, it was they were physically whipping us at the point of attack. (The crazy scheme seemed to be because Gus and Co. knew they would get whipped.)

Anyone who has ever called plays knows how limiting that is, etc...In retrospect we probably should have had a game plan like ole miss (short drops, quick passes) but Gus didn't trust his QB's or his WR's at that point in the season. He also is pretty stubborn about wanting to establish the run, thankfully. What success we have found in the last 7-8 years is because of this mentality.

Against Clemson and A&M the oline made it difficult to establish the run. The oline change allowed this offense to get back to what it does best run the football and let the QB hurt you when you don't see it coming.
Posted by scleeb
Member since Nov 2014
180 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:26 am to
Gus is a "one trick pony". However, it is a damn good trick. The trick is predicated on the power run game. When the scheme and play calling deviate. Gus looks like an idiot. When he stays on script he looks like a genius. Reality is, he is neither.

Damnedest thing, it took a discouraged HC to delegate play calling, an injured center, and converted fullback to reveal what was obvious.

The things to be angry with Gus about are these:

His ego allowing him to believe he could deviate from his own philosophy and system.

Dragging out a 3 QB competition through spring, fall camp, and into the season. This team should be undefeated and in the top 5.

Hopefully, he has learned his lesson. Then again, I kind of like the extreme emotional highs and lows, the anguish, the frustration but that's me.

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