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re: Jeremy Garrett interviewed with the Jaguars

Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by CorchJay
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:58 pm to
frick off bammer
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/3/24 at 6:57 am to
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You need to wake up realize that Carl Lawson signed nearly 11 years ago and Derrick Brown was 8 years ago.


Lawson was already committed and RG was what led to him taking other visits. RG that year brought Montravius Adams

RG wasn't a bad DL coach but he wasn't great at AU. He also is way past his prime now
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
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Posted on 2/3/24 at 7:34 am to
Melt more
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/3/24 at 8:06 am to
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RG wasn't a bad DL coach but he wasn't great at AU. He also is way past his prime now


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Lawson was already committed and RG was what led to him taking other visits.

And....anybody can make shite up. More than likely the whole staff getting canned was the real reason for his taking visits or other trivial bullshite that has zero to do with anybody's acumen or wherewithal of knowledge.
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Garner was coaching at Georgia in the spring of 2012 when Lawson was rising up the recruiting rankings, but Georgia never pushed for Lawson. The Bulldogs ran a 3-4 defense and Lawson wasn't a priority. Garner recruited the defensive line and Lawson was projected as a linebacker in the Georgia system.


You have some weird expectations if you think Garner wasnt doing his part on the field and in recruiting. His unit was always the strongest link of our team, and his recruiting is why Auburn routinely landed top 12 classes. Those are facts.

If you think he is out of his prime then you haven't been paying attention at all.


He has never worst than top 62 in top recruiters since he started at Auburn at Auburn. Give me a fricking break, you big joke.

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RG wasn't a bad DL coach but he wasn't great at AU.

He was the most consistent on Gus's staff by far. Who the frick here is calling is him the GOAT or the best in the nation.
This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 8:35 am
Posted by CreweBilt
Member since Oct 2017
626 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:00 am to
While everyone in here is arguing about whether or not Rodney Garner is a good football coach, I'm just wondering which current-or-former Ole Miss assistant we're going to hire next
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:01 am to
Hiring RG would be great. Not sure why people don't like it
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:21 am to
He may be past his prime but he was outstanding his last run at Auburn
Posted by metafour
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Posted on 2/3/24 at 12:01 pm to
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Garner was responsbile for nearly every big player for us. I dont give a damn about Carl lawson being 11 years ago.

He was also primary for Tank Bigsby, Dontavious Russel, KJ Britt, Keiondre Jones, Jeff Holland, secondary recruiter for Derrek Hall, etc. Anybody that was relatively decent was probably brought in by the man himself. You should google the guy that brought in the juco DL that stocked Dollar General at night and turned him into a top three round pick. Or the Tyrone Truesdells out there that Garner developed to be nice players. Look at the rest of the 3 stars that actually ended up doing stuff. Malik Willis, Daquan Newkirk, Brodarius Hamm, Devaroe Lawrence, Shed Jackson, etc. The guy could recruit and he knew talent.


I dont know who your guy brought in but his recroots aint done shite yet. Always keep that in mind.

Now please tell me why some one year wonder is a big loss when CRG has been as consistent as a tick fricking tock at recruiting and developing.



That's great, now do the list of Garner's uber-busts at Auburn:

Top 100 Elijah Daniel
Top 100 Antwuan Jackson Jr
Top 100 Charles Moore
Top 100 Zykevious Walker
Top 100 Jaren Handy
Top 100 Jay Hardy
Top 150 Coynis Miller
Top 150 Justin Thornton
JUCO Dre Butler

Nick Coe (#55 overall on 247) etc, etc, etc. These guys produced literally nothing. Most of them transferred out within a year of signing.

Derick Hall was recruited by Charles Woodson (who was THE GUY recruiting all Mississippi kids) and he didn't even get coached by Garner (Hall was a Jack his entire time at Auburn and Garner was coaching the DL). Tank Bigsby wanted to go to South Carolina and we literally backed our way into signing him after USCe took MarShawn Lloyd instead. This is well known. The fact that you think Keiondre Jones was some big "prize" is funny - a completely average starter who was floating between the 1st and 2nd string and thus left for FSU. I hope you don't actually think that Garner had to "recruit" Malik Willis - a low 3-star who was committed to VaTech and was a backup last second QB signee who would have signed with AU regardless of who "recruited" him.

Why didn't you bring up Harold Joiner as a big Garner recruit? Jordan Colbert? Or Zion Puckett?

Garner's big successes: Lawson, Derrick Brown, Marlon Davidson were all uber-hard workers who had that trait before they even came to Auburn. They didn't mind Garner's assholish coaching style. If you look at the above massive list of Garner's OTHER elite DL signees who did frick-all; you see that his flameout rate was absurd. Cool, he managed to get a Top 5-10 player like Derrick Brown who would have panned out regardless of where he signed or who coached him to play hard at Auburn. For every Derrick Brown he had 3-4 other Top 100 guys who barely suited up for Auburn let alone recorded a tackle or sack before they were kicked off the team or quit.

Your idiotic attempts at trying to nullify Jeremy Garrett's obvious success at Auburn is nothing more than homer sour grapes. Boo-hoo a coach left Auburn under his own power so now we all have to pretend like it really isn't a big loss. Actually, he wasn't just a "one year" wonder because as I explained, Garrett was currently ranked the #2 recruiter nationally in the 2025 class as well. So #12 in 2024 and #2 early in 2025 for a guy who was only here for less than two years. Pretty fricking impressive if you ask me, as is the fact that an NFL team just poached him away to coach DL. Do you know how many NFL teams have tried to hire Garner away in his 30+ years coaching? Zero. Zip. Nada.

Anyway, the key takeaway here is that this is a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately business, and 90%+ of the praises you have to sing for Garner is shite that he did 10+ years ago. You realize that 10+ years ago Gus Malzahn was a national championship caliber coach who "developed" Cam Newton, right? Garner is almost 60 years old and it is very obvious to anyone who is plugged in that his age is catching up to him, as it does with every coach. Why the frick should anyone care who he recruited or signed 10-15 years ago? If he was still that level of recruiter, why does he have zero 2025 commits? And why was his 2024 class completely pedestrian apart from one overrated recruit who he beat on one for? Tennessee is literally under investigation for its NIL so its not like he's at a school that doesn't have the resources to pay for players.

You are talking about hiring 2024 Rodney Garner; not Garner during his peak at UGA 20 years ago.

Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3598 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 12:12 pm to
I also want to point out that the three guys who everyone was crying about hiring last year (Jeremy Garrett, Josh Aldridge, and Marcus Davis) were by far the best recruiters on this entire staff.

Having a balanced staff with YOUNG, HUNGRY, and RELATABLE recruiters is extremely important.

But sure enough the usual suspects will never learn, so we're back to Rodney fricking Garner - because look at his ginormous list of guys he coached back in 2003 LMAO. This staff has enough grizzly veteran coaches on it.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36377 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 12:13 pm to
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That's great, now do the list of Garner's uber-busts at Auburn:

The more you sign, the more busts you have. I guarantee plenty will have busts.


If recruits are too soft for CRG then they wont ever be anything unless they change. Simple as that.

The sun is out, stop writing books of stupidity.
This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 12:15 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18358 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 1:11 pm to
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Can’t blame any college coach for leaving for the NFL with the shite show of what college athletics has become with transfers, NIL, etc


I imagine there’s also some concern of the NCAA coming after coaches and programs for trying to navigate the Wild West that is NIL.
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/3/24 at 1:35 pm to
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also want to point out that the three guys who everyone was crying about hiring last year (Jeremy Garrett, Josh Aldridge, and Marcus Davis) were by far the best recruiters on this entire staff.


Autrigr24 strikes again
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19185 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 1:54 pm to
Damn, I just saw this.

I know he had a few years in the League with the Browns and Myles Garrett raved about him in an interview I saw. He is well regarded in the NFL so it was probably just a matter of time, but I figured he would get more than one season.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36377 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 1:54 pm to
Yall are loving on some guy that bolted to the NFL and coaches that haven't proven anything while coaching at Auburn while dissing someone that helped carry our defense for years.

Couldn't be me.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8593 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:22 pm to
Did we hire a Dline coach?
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:46 pm to
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Did we hire a Dline coach?


No, looks like it’s down to Garner and Pope
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8593 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:19 pm to
Who's Pope again?
Posted by FlyDownTheField
Member since Dec 2013
1763 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:32 pm to
I'd be happy to have garner.
Posted by FlyDownTheField
Member since Dec 2013
1763 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:36 pm to
Garner isn't a Boise boy and has sec experience. Well be fine with him. He's a great get In a pinch.

We've lost alot, but that tends to start happening when you put together good staffs. The nfl calls or they get promotions.

Coaches getting hired away to the nfl and elevated roles speaks an incredible amount about freeze. He's the common denominator.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3598 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:39 pm to
It sounds like there is growing likelihood that Vontrell King-Williams (currently on staff as a Defensive Analyst) gets promoted to DL coach. He came over last season from Eastern Michigan where he was the DT coach, and he was a GA at Liberty previously.

He is apparently very well liked by the players in the room and has been a big part of recruiting.
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