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re: If B.H. Doesn’t Make It, Would Deion Sanders Excite the Fan Base?
Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:36 am to MrAUTigers
Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:36 am to MrAUTigers
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The HC you constantly want to get rid of has had a hell of a lot of success. "It's just Boise St.".
So 51-20 in the SEC west and a NC isn’t “some success”
Thumping San Diego Polynesian school is success. Got it!
As for Harsin, apparently he ran Boise into the ground and left in the Nick of time. No wonder he wanted out.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 6:38 am
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Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:41 am to jangalang
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So 51-20 in the SEC west and a NC isn’t “some success”
Orgeron was a disaster as a HC. At LSU, he won double digit game twice..........in six years. He won more than six games three time is six years. Sorry, that is far from "successful".
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As for Harsin, apparently he ran Boise into the ground and left in the Nick of time. No wonder he wanted out.
Yes, that's it.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 6:42 am
Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:46 am to MrAUTigers
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Orgeron was a disaster as a HC. At LSU, he won double digit game twice..........in six years
My whole point was bringing in HC’s that can relate to the environment and you keep irrelevantly bringing up his Ole Miss record.
Are you going to bring up Cristobal’s record at Florida Atlantic too?
But I can play this game. What year will Haskins trump Ed O’s winning percentage at LSU and bring in a NC?
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Yes, that's it.
Your smartest reply to date.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 6:48 am
Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:51 am to jangalang
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My whole point was bringing in HC’s that can relate to the environment and you keep irrelevantly bringing up his Ole Miss record.
Are you going to bring up Cristobal’s record at Florida Atlantic too?
We have no proven HC's that can "relate to the environment". When we fire Harsin, whenever that is, we will be bringing in some unproven HC. If we get rid of him after two years, the "unproven" pool shrinks even more. These coaches have families. They uproot their lives. Nobody worth a shite is going to go somewhere where they may have two/three years before they are looking for a new job.........money be damned.
ETA you keep bringing up Deion. What the hell does he know about the environment of Auburn?
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 6:53 am
Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:56 am to MrAUTigers
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We have no proven HC's that can "relate to the environment".
Pittman wasn’t proven. Ed O wasn’t proven before 51-20, 1 NC. I already said I’m not sold on a Coach G, but Coach G could have similar success so being dismissive isn’t the smartest thing.
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They uproot their lives. Nobody worth a shite is going to go somewhere where they may have two/three years before they are looking for a new job.........money be damned.
No. Money cannot be damned. If Harsin gets fired he will deserve it and he will be paid handsomely to leave. Coaches want money and power. The fearmongering schtick needs to end.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:58 am to jangalang
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ETA you keep bringing up Deion. What the hell does he know about the environment of Auburn?
He is a transcendent coach that can right Harsin’s wrongs. Harsin just isn’t cut out for the job. Sorry, buddy.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:03 am to jangalang
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As for Harsin, apparently he ran Boise into the ground and left in the Nick of time. No wonder he wanted out.
Yes coach. We will give you two years. If we don't like what we are doing, you are gone. Coaches everywhere will be lining up for that.
Again, the money won't mean a damn thing to those people. We will be back to looking for a HC from the HS ranks. Anybody worth a shite will bide their time for a better offer.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:04 am to jangalang
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He is a transcendent coach that can right Harsin’s wrongs. Harsin just isn’t cut out for the job. Sorry, buddy.
How the frick do you know this?
After one year and two games.......... :rotflmao: ETA and Deion has become a "transcendent HC" in two years? You are an idiot.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 7:07 am
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:09 am to MrAUTigers
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Again, the money won't mean a damn thing to those people. We will be back to looking for a HC from the HS ranks. Anybody worth a shite will bide their time for a better offer.
You’re miserable with the fearmongering, Eeyore.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:12 am to MrAUTigers
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ETA and Deion has become a "transcendent HC" in two years? You are an idiot.
Quick: tell me the last SWAC coach to make the cover of Sports Illustrated, or to bring in a blue chip recruit? He has literally started a movement that’s opening up TV deals for the SWAC.
Recruits love to play for him. I can’t say I blame them.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:26 am to jangalang
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tell me the last SWAC coach to make the cover of Sports Illustrated,
Oh, well..........
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or to bring in a blue chip recruit?
They bought a recruit who grew up idolizing him. That means he is a hell of a football coach.
Chiz and Gus had very highly rated recruiting classes. What did that get them? One the team quit on. The other was inept. But we won the recruiting wars. Again, you are an idiot. Tell me about A&M's recruiting. What has that gotten them?
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:55 am to MrAUTigers
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Again, you are an idiot
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MrAUTigers
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:56 am to MrAUTigers
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Chiz and Gus had very highly rated recruiting classes. What did that get them?
A National Championship and a trip to another National Championship game. Yes, they eventually failed and got fired, but what we got was pretty darn good. I am worried about what it gets Auburn, not some millionaire coach.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:56 am to MrAUTigers
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Chiz and Gus had very highly rated recruiting classes. What did that get them?
Two NC appearances and 3 SEC championship appearances.
But continue pounding the table because Harsin beat Loyola of San Francisco- Polynesian Institute
Posted on 9/16/22 at 8:00 am to MrAUTigers
I really think most people hear Deion Sanders and they think "Primetime". They don't want that showboating loud talking guy being a coach at Auburn. They have no idea about Deion. Best cornerback to ever play in the NFL and the guy has a better football IQ and brain than about 99% of coaches out there. You want a guy that can figure out how to stop all these high octane passing offenses we see in college now? He is the guy. I have no doubt in my mind he will be very successful wherever he coaches at. He is a winner.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 8:01 am
Posted on 9/16/22 at 8:12 am to MrAUTigers
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Again, you are an idiot. Tell me about A&M's recruiting. What has that gotten them?
You pretend like your arguments are the gospel while I “spin”, yet all of your arguments consist of red herrings and insults.
As for A&M, if they continue recruiting well, then at the very least that will get them a roster chalk full of talent for the next coach. The roster is also another consideration that prospective coaches gauge when deciding on their best fit. Just in case you didn’t know that.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 8:19 am to Hussss
Question is not whether he would excite the fanbase, but whether he would excite recruits.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 8:31 am to CorchJay
quote:This is the appropriate take.
Aranda is my top choice.
Grimes would be on my list.
No to D. Sanders.
Up comers both OC and DC. But needs to be a splash type in this recruiting area. Can’t go get Iowa’s DC.
Coach Rodney Garner if you are willing to stack talent for the next coach. Same type hire would be Dell McGee. I think Dell would want more long term promises then Coach G
But I’m still willing to wait out this season and recruiting class before I say it’s definitely time to move on.
A lot of it has to do with what kind of program we want at AU. Been thinking about that recently, may start a thread on it later.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 9:00 am to wareaglepete
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They have no idea about Deion.
I was in the stadium when Bo gave him the stiff arm.
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Best cornerback to ever play in the NFL and the guy has a better football IQ and brain than about 99% of coaches out there. You want a guy that can figure out how to stop all these high octane passing offenses we see in college now? He is the guy. I have no doubt in my mind he will be very successful wherever he coaches at. He is a winner.
Deion can't coach what he could do. That's why Magic made a shitty HC. Look at your best coaches in every sport. They weren't the superstars. You can't coach unbelievable athletic ability. It remains to be seen what kind of HC he will be. Two seasons isn't enough time to turn over a P5 program. If he was sure fire, he wouldn't be where he is right now.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 9:06 am to jangalang
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As for A&M, if they continue recruiting well, then at the very least that will get them a roster chalk full of talent for the next coach.
DING DING DING.
Harsin inherited a roster built on finesse. It was the way the team was coached. It is the way the team was weight trained. Hell, look at the 225 lb bench numbers for our OL. A HC is coming in and trying to change the entire culture of the program. That doesn't just happen in a short period of time.
You give the man a chance to do his job. Do you honestly think there is a HC, that would come to Auburn, that would turn things around immediately? Look at FSU. We would have already fired Norvelle. It looks like he has FSU in a much different trajectory than what they have been.
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