re: Gov. Ivey's Stay-At-Home Order

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I’m outta here again until I can come back and laugh at the sky screamers!!!

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Likely not

Your the same troll who promised several pages back that he was done with this thread. As if finally practicing the social distancing you disdain.

Which was obviously another lie to add to your ever growing wall of bogus facts and figures. The same that Gene (and others) easily push aside every time. Posts that only illustrate and reinforce some wayward notion that you instinctively know better than the rest of us. Mere utter fallacy as you attempt to prove by sheer volume and tone. In a time when respectable people have chosen to draw near. When most have pulled together and earnestly cared for each other. You shite on it.

We see their graciousness live in the news, we see the same benevolence in our families, and we read about such on every page. And into this you peddle a f--- you and foment discord. First it was spreading death is not personal. To next rallying the cry of my civil liberties which disregards the far greater right of the public to distance itself from harm. To now its death's no fear for I'll put my trust in God. With which you now seek to discredit and make low the very Christianity that's been on display. And which boarders on laying claim to who's holier than who? Now how Christian is that... mister Pharisee?


Please just go away* and quit claiming to be the man you so want to be.






(* and prove your 2nd claim of exiting was not just another lie)

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I feel like people want a solution that gives everybody zero risks. When in reality, there’s never going to be anything that doesn’t come with some risks especially for old vulnerable people.

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FYI, I don’t disagree with you I’m just trying to view all aspects of the argument “open it up and make the vulnerable figure it out.”

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How is she getting those supplies in a total shutdown? She’s going out where there are people that are infected or someone is brining it to her.

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This is correct, but in a shutdown there is a much small chance the people she is around or bringing her food have been exposed to the virus than if things continued as usual.

I’ll say it again, I’m on the side of opening things up sooner than later and people using common sense in that time. I think people understand the severity of the situation and how severely their actions can negatively affect, those at risk. I mean crap, there are plenty of cases of people who are not in the vulnerable category who end up hospitalized or describing it as 10x worse than the flu.

The UK and Sweden are proof that going about business as usual and quarantining the old can go bad pretty quickly if people are too casual about it.

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I’ll say it again, I’m on the side of opening things up sooner than later and people using common sense in that time. I think people understand the severity of the situation and how severely their actions can negatively affect, those at risk.

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I’m just venting on all the things I’ve read not necessarily your opinion. I haven’t read this thread much.

What bothers me is everyone views everything so black and white. There’s complete lockdown and there’s 100% back to normal. No in between.

They panicked when Ivey wouldn’t issue a stay at home order and screamed bloody murder but are perfectly calm now that she did. What did the stay at home order change from how we were before? Almost nothing.

Now they panic that we are “opening back up” because all they do is read that phrase and think we’re going back to normal. If you actually listen to what they said, it’s still not anywhere near normal. All they really did was allow some stores besides big box retail to open. Still limiting capacity in stores.

Then you have the states that are over policing to hell and not using any common sense in how they apply the laws. A guy gets arrested for jogging on alone which there is nothing wrong with. I don’t know why people trust the government to use common sense anymore.

Actually, South Korea has done a great job curtailing the virus. And they have not shut down the economy. Could be a model for states.

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South Korea has done a great job curtailing the virus. And they have not shut down the economy.

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My comments were to point out that CorchJay regularly brings false claims to this board, not really taking a side.

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Could be a model for states.

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I agree and what I hope for us doing. Just keep in mind, South Korea's success is attributed to their aggressive early testing, case tracing + voluntary participation in social distancing. Unfortunately, we are far from what SK is doing But we are more than capable of pulling it off if committed.

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Actually, South Korea has done a great job curtailing the virus. And they have not shut down the economy. Could be a model for states.

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This is definitely the best model to follow. Like Gene said though, the key to their success was getting it on the front end and testing very early. Hoping we can figure out a way to implement it though.

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The precedent of being socially conscious (by hiding out) was made for the common good. Most people, including most here recognize this is and also knew it was enacted to be temporary in nature. It wasn't stealing civil liberties.

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Businesses are being ordered to close and people and businesses are being issued citations for disobeying shelter in place orders.

That’s taking away civil liberties.

Just seems there are more reasonable ways around this than forcing businesses to shut their doors.

" I know that my stance isn't the most popular, but I don't care. If I have to step over dead bodies to get to the beach or the grocery store, I don't care. No forcible curtailing of my civil liberties is worth it. NONE."

If human life means so little and liberty means so much, maybe it is time for you to pick up a weapon. You are pretty quick to compromise the lives of others in the name of "liberty". How about your own?

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maybe it is time for you to pick up a weapon.

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Not quite there yet, but doing everything short of this at the moment. The willingness of my fellow countrymen to hand over their rights because some people are scared is amazing to me.

More Sweden... like I said I’ll only reply to come laugh at the sky screamers. How is it so that Sweden is so much lower in deaths per millions as opposed to neighboring countries on complete lockdown??? Since you know I bring lies and misinformation

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Stop watching fox msnbc cnn for your news they are all agenda driven and do your own research.