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Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:06 pm to BrounHaller
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That genie is not going back into the bottle.
More like Pandora's box.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:00 am to Fearless and True
In 1973, I attended my first home game.
Afterwards, I went into the locker room and met coaches and players.
I was nobody.
Today, locker room access on game day is likely a $100,000 donation type experience.
Coach Jordan made a nice salary. All the head coaches now make huge salaries that create great expectations. Succeed or be replaced. It’s simple.
Expectations go up when the price of an experience goes up. I remember when Auburn had games in early September, I could go for a dollar. I saw us play several of those games. Times have changed. People are paying more, so they expect more.
It is what it is. It will take time, but Brother Hugh knows that in order to compete, you must have the most talented players you can sign and develop their skills quickly.
Afterwards, I went into the locker room and met coaches and players.
I was nobody.
Today, locker room access on game day is likely a $100,000 donation type experience.
Coach Jordan made a nice salary. All the head coaches now make huge salaries that create great expectations. Succeed or be replaced. It’s simple.
Expectations go up when the price of an experience goes up. I remember when Auburn had games in early September, I could go for a dollar. I saw us play several of those games. Times have changed. People are paying more, so they expect more.
It is what it is. It will take time, but Brother Hugh knows that in order to compete, you must have the most talented players you can sign and develop their skills quickly.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:54 pm to makersmark1
I would say expectations are lower at Auburn than most other SEC schools, certainly lower than the Big 6 SEC schools. We have put up with mediocre coaches for years longer than other programs, and a few years ago our president joked that a mediocre football season was best because it kept football from becoming too important.
We've seen all of our rivals make rapid and decisive coaching changes even with successful coaches, while we have tolerated mediocrity for years. We did fire Chizik and Harsin, but those guys both had to fail egregiously before we dropped the hammer.
It's not all bad. To the best of my knowledge, we've never had death threats after a kicker missed a kick, and I don't want to belong to that kind of a fanbase, but we should expect to have a coaching staff and athletic department that has a real plan to up our game every year, and we should see results.
We've seen all of our rivals make rapid and decisive coaching changes even with successful coaches, while we have tolerated mediocrity for years. We did fire Chizik and Harsin, but those guys both had to fail egregiously before we dropped the hammer.
It's not all bad. To the best of my knowledge, we've never had death threats after a kicker missed a kick, and I don't want to belong to that kind of a fanbase, but we should expect to have a coaching staff and athletic department that has a real plan to up our game every year, and we should see results.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:42 pm to CharlesUFarley
We are a Big 6 school. And what mediocre coach did we hang on to for to long?
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:44 pm to CorchJay
Definitely Gus
Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:49 pm to jangalang
Eh I definitely wouldn’t call Gus mediocre. Gus is on of the best head coaches the university has had. I understand he had been here a while and gotten stale and laid some eggs but don’t think we help on to him to long. 2017 very good season, 2019 good season, 2020 covid season and gets fired? We panicked at the rise of Georgia. We were just good enough to beat the good teams and just bad enough to lose to some we thought we shouldn’t.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:53 pm to CorchJay
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Gus is on of the best head coaches the university has had
He's a career 8-4 coach, at best. One year better than that at Auburn, and one year better than that at ARK state.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:01 pm to CharlesUFarley
Welcome to AU history. Highs and lows. We have a great season a couple average and a low season. That’s been our history.
Maybe our history changes and we become a team that truly wins championships 8-10 years in a row.
Maybe our history changes and we become a team that truly wins championships 8-10 years in a row.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:46 pm to CorchJay
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Welcome to AU history. Highs and lows. We have a great season a couple average and a low season. That’s been our history.
Not.
At least since Dye got to Auburn, we didn't routinely lose 50% of our conference games until Malzahn. We had coaches who lost like that, but only in their first and final years, or so. Bowden went 4-4 in the conference in 1996 and got a public warning for it. Look it up.
Tuberville had his struggles with Arkansas, but it took Malzahn to make us a 50/50 bet against the Mississippi teams.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:01 pm to CharlesUFarley
I looked it up since Shug essentially every coach other then Bowden and Barfield has been between .650-.700 win percentage. Regardless of who the ebbs and flows of who may or may not have good teams.
The Mississippi schools haven’t gotten better because Malzhan was the coach they go better because of influx of SEC money. Same as UGa’s rise has nothing to do with Kirby or Malzhan and has everything to do with demographics in the Atlanta area. There are many massive football high school factories in and around Atlanta that AU has never had to deal with except for the last 20 years.
The Mississippi schools haven’t gotten better because Malzhan was the coach they go better because of influx of SEC money. Same as UGa’s rise has nothing to do with Kirby or Malzhan and has everything to do with demographics in the Atlanta area. There are many massive football high school factories in and around Atlanta that AU has never had to deal with except for the last 20 years.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:22 pm to CorchJay
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Eh I definitely wouldn’t call Gus mediocre
He was the black and white definition of mediocre. He had 4 loss seasons every year since his first year here.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 3:33 am to jangalang
quote:Still the guy recruited well. So were they not the right pieces or that he didn't use them well?
He was the black and white definition of mediocre.
247Sports - Composite Rankings - Auburn
followed by AP (poll) end of year
2013 -10 - 2
2014 - 6 - 22
2015 - 8
2016 - 9 - 24
2017 - 9 - 10
2018 - 12
2019 - 11 - 14
2020 - 7
Since we are talking expectations.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:59 am to CharlesUFarley
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At least since Dye got to Auburn, we didn't routinely lose 50% of our conference games until Malzahn. We had coaches who lost like that, but only in their first and final years, or so. Bowden went 4-4 in the conference in 1996 and got a public warning for it. Look it up.
Tuberville had his struggles with Arkansas, but it took Malzahn to make us a 50/50 bet against the Mississippi teams.
Tubs also got the benifit of coaching while Alabama was on total probation most of his career at Auburn while Malzahn coached at a time where Alabama was the best program in college football history. And he still managed to win a few games against them.
Malzahn coached Auburn at the absolute peak of the SEC and SEC West. And still managed to do better than the Auburn historical average.
We were a better program with Malzahn comparatively than we have been in a long time. And way better than we have been since he left.
Recuriting was better, big wins were better and in Auburn tradition, we had some great years mixed in there. I dont know about you but I dont know when we will see one of those great years again
Posted on 11/10/23 at 6:00 am to CharlesUFarley
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He's a career 8-4 coach,
Welcome to Auburn history. Like it or not, it is what Auburn has been if not a little worse
Posted on 11/10/23 at 6:24 am to jangalang
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He was the black and white definition of mediocre. He had 4 loss seasons every year since his first year here.
And without a brief substitution advantage, he would have been worse. I still can't figure out how he had so many wins post '14. His style of football was miserable to watch. Most of his star recruits were undersized or projects of some kind that rarely panned out. His teams were too often fundamentally awful and he rarely was prepared for his biggest games.
Record wise, he may have been on par, but I'm SO glad he's moved on. My greatest fear now is that Freeze is a near variation, because that would be tough to watch again.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 6:45 am to AUCom96
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And without a brief substitution advantage, he would have been worse. I
And without one stupid play, he would have given Auburn another National Championship.
Goes both ways.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 6:52 am to CharlesUFarley
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He's a career 8-4 coach, at best.
We don't seem to mind, we just hired another.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 7:10 am to LanierSpots
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And without one stupid play, he would have given Auburn another National Championship.
That bonehead lost that championship just as much as those stupid plays did. That was his defense and his punt defense that got fooled.
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 7:12 am
Posted on 11/10/23 at 7:11 am to slacker130
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We don't seem to mind, we just hired another.
You cry so much you must be exhausted.
Name one coach that we could have hired that is a proven winner beyond 8-4.
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 7:13 am
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