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Posted on 11/7/22 at 11:44 pm to pdfield34
Posted on 11/7/22 at 11:44 pm to pdfield34
All I know is no one on our list is worth 100 million. None. Hell no coach is worth that.
I laid it out a bit ago in another thread I thought it would take
100m/10yrs for Kiffin
7/7 for Prime
Lanning is the new name this week but no it’s not worth 7 million a year at this point.
I think we could get Freeze for 6.5/6.
So if 100 million is being discussed then we are going after Kiffin or some other P5 coach looking for a better recruiting footprint
I laid it out a bit ago in another thread I thought it would take
100m/10yrs for Kiffin
7/7 for Prime
Lanning is the new name this week but no it’s not worth 7 million a year at this point.
I think we could get Freeze for 6.5/6.
So if 100 million is being discussed then we are going after Kiffin or some other P5 coach looking for a better recruiting footprint
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 1:10 am to Hussss
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This new A.D Cohen goes after very smart candidates.
Tom Herman is a member of Mensa and failed hard at Texas (the school with the most resources in America).
Tot was a Rhodes scholar (studied at Oxford - the one in England, not in Mississippi). He sucked too. He went to Clemson to be rehabilitated by a guy who's name is actually Dabo. And Dabo didn't even pay him - he said if he wants involved he had to sign up for classes and become a GA (which Tot did, lol).
Crootin is what matters. You've got to connect with them and they probably won't connect very well with a snooty Ivy Leaguer.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 2:27 am to pdfield34
Elko is 100% a google hire…
Lanning isn’t a google hire but I mean damn… if that’s the best we can do that’s a big letdown… very mid.
Neither are splashes.
Lanning isn’t a google hire but I mean damn… if that’s the best we can do that’s a big letdown… very mid.
Neither are splashes.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:11 am to ALhunter
quote:That's what happens when we worry more about looking like saints and not looking for the best coach to get us winning.
ALhunter
Elko is 100% a google hire…
Lanning isn’t a google hire but I mean damn… if that’s the best we can do that’s a big letdown… very mid.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 6:00 am to Rabern57
Elko is pathetic. That's a hire that creates backlash and people to cancel their season tickets
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 6:06 am
Posted on 11/8/22 at 6:21 am to Poker Dough
These threads and these sauces are what make coaching change time so fun on the Auburn board
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:04 am to Poker Dough
ELKO would turn out to be Harsin 2.0. I'd have 0 faith left in the program. Nothing about his resume makes me think he can get the job done. Maybe he has some decent defenses at A&M? Thats it?
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:05 am to jangalang
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The list of coaches making 9 mil is growing. See Mel Tucker contract
I know people don't want to hear it on this board, but it's the market for coaches these days.
Jimbo, Tucker, Riley...Hell, Auburn is partly to blame for driving up the market with the insane extension they gave Gus after 2017.
To get a good coach, the program is gonna have to bust out the cash. Otherwise we could spend 4 or 5 mil a year and get another Harsin type and pray that it doesn't turn out like Harsin.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:07 am to IAmNERD
Even if we hire in someone for 4 or 5 m a year, the second they have success, they are going to demand a competitive salary. Just go out and spend the cash on someone we know will work out.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:16 am to jangalang
quote:OP stated "9 figures" and "ten year contract". 9 figures is a MINUMUM of $100 million. 100 mill/10 years+=?
I literally said “give Kiffin 9.5m, that’s comparable to Brian Kelly” and you got all bent out of shape.
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Hence why he only got an 8 year deal.
Saban's contract is $93.7 million. Hmmm....which is greater, $100 mill or $93 mill? If Auburn gives Kiffin the contract he is rumored to want, and you suggest we do it, he will be regarded as the highest paid coach in college football. Keep in mind, his only championship he has ever won, anywhere as a HC, was a Con USA title. He also is not exactly known as an elite recruiter. IF Saban coaches until his new extension is up, he will be 79 years old. Do you really think Saban will still be coaching when he's 75?
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:20 am to FlyDownTheField
Why does anyone care about these salaries? It gets argued over constantly everywhere, not just here. No one here is paying it. If you’re paying it, then you can worry over it. Quit worrying over what other people get paid. Did that Malzahn contract keep him from getting fired? Did it keep Harsin from getting fired? Everyone screams and cries and says oh no we’ll be stuck with them or just have to pay out a bunch of money. So. Quit worrying over other peoples money.
Like Corch said, none of them are worth the money, so why freak out about if someone gets $5MM vs $11MM a year.
Like Corch said, none of them are worth the money, so why freak out about if someone gets $5MM vs $11MM a year.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 7:22 am
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:20 am to greygoose
My concern now is a hire like Elko happening
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:22 am to Poker Dough
Poker:
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:23 am to Poker Dough
Stop being such a pussy
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:28 am to FlyDownTheField
quote:That kind of thinking is flawed. Name a sure-fire, can't miss coach, that warrants a $100 mill contract?
Even if we hire in someone for 4 or 5 m a year, the second they have success, they are going to demand a competitive salary. Just go out and spend the cash on someone we know will work out.
We are much better off hiring someone who is hungry and craving success coupled with a massive work ethic. Then pay him handsomely if he brings home the goods. Paying upfront for the hope of future success gets you the Jimbo Effect.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:31 am to wareaglepete
I'm arguing for us paying more for an established coach instead of less for a gamble at a coach. These coaches are worth what the market says they are. If you want a top 5 coach you are looking at the $9.5mm range. $5MM is going to get you a gamble where you end up having to pay $9.5MM if the gamble pays off, and you have to pay a coach to not coach if it doesn't pay off. Just pay the money and enjoy some good auburn football for once.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:34 am to greygoose
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OP stated "9 figures" and "ten year contract". 9 figures is a MINUMUM of $100 million. 100 mill/10 years+=?
Did you or did you not get bent out of shape over me sayin giving Kiffin 9.5 because it was comparable to Kelly’s. You’re a shitty human being. Basically a Freeze imho.
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Saban's contract is $93.7 million. Hmmm....which is greater, $100 mill or $93 mill?
You’re embarrassing yourself at this point. 10> 8; 11.7 > 9.5.
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IF Saban coaches until his new extension is up, he will be 79 years old. Do you really think Saban will still be coaching when he's 75?
Why do I care?
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:34 am to greygoose
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Paying upfront for the hope of future success gets you the Jimbo Effect.
Or the Brian Kelly effect.
Stop speaking in absolutes. It just makes you look bad.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 7:36 am
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:34 am to blzr
Thinking someone is terrible hire is being a pussy? You're a fricking twat
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:34 am to wareaglepete
quote:The cumulative effect of bad hires, extensions, and huge buyouts cannot be overlooked. Just because the money isn't coming out of YOUR pocket, doesn't mean you shouldn't be concerned about this. Paying out huge sums for failures can and will affect the ability to spend on the next guy. We have wealthy boosters. Exactly when do they stop throwing good money after bad decisions?
Why does anyone care about these salaries? It gets argued over constantly everywhere, not just here. No one here is paying it. If you’re paying it, then you can worry over it. Quit worrying over what other people get paid. Did that Malzahn contract keep him from getting fired? Did it keep Harsin from getting fired? Everyone screams and cries and says oh no we’ll be stuck with them or just have to pay out a bunch of money. So. Quit worrying over other peoples money.
Like Corch said, none of them are worth the money, so why freak out about if someone gets $5MM vs $11MM a year.
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