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re: Coach got the Rona

Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
27073 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:39 pm to
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Plus, the hold up to get your negative test or card out would be awful going into the gates

Unless LSU has a different level of staffing at the gates, those workers aren’t going to looking at shite
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37739 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:53 pm to
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that when like 60-70% of adults are vaccinated and numbers are as high as they have ever been it's not preventing getting the disease or transmission.


Considering the current believed R0 value of ~7-8 for Delta, 60-70% vaccination wouldn't stop spread even if vaccines were 100% effective and stopped transmission

simplistically if R0 * (1 - %vaccinated *Effectiveness Rate) has a value greater than 1 you can expect growint transmission spread. So 7 (1 - 70% * 100) is 2.1.

For reference I think the original COVID R0 w no Vaccine was around 2-3 based on the data available

This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 12:54 pm
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31641 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:56 pm to
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One of the big issues with this is people literally can't or won't see basic reality. 1 and 3 both are accurate. If someone read that and believed nobody would get COVID or spread COVID that was vaccinated then explain why the original study showed 94% efficacy against transmission. Then find out how many Americans are fully vaccinated and run the numbers on 6% of those people and you'll realize a ton of vaccinated people will get COVID. However, they are 29 times less likely to be hospitalized. Currently based on the original trial data around 11 million vaccinated people should get COVID. We have since learned the vaccine has a shelf life in our systems and Deltas replication approach makes it more difficult for the vaccine to react to the virus. Meaning that 94% is clearly much lower so the 11 million is not accurate. However, it does support the CDC statement above. #CAN #MAY


All I have to say is this, when the vaccine rolled out did you ever anticipate we would still be in this position nearly 6 months later? Of course not, and neither did the CDC or any other organization which is why they relaxed all the COVID rules.

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Watching the decision LSU just made...watching schools having so much difficulty keeping children in class


The point is these measures aren't necessary. It's the ridiculous contact tracing and testing rules that are causing these issues. We have an entire class at my school virtual and zero kids in the class ever had symptoms of COVID.

Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
64260 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:28 pm to
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simplistically if R0 * (1 - %vaccinated *Effectiveness Rate) has a value greater than 1 you can expect growint transmission spread. So 7 (1 - 70% * 100) is 2.1.



Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:37 pm to
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All I have to say is this, when the vaccine rolled out did you ever anticipate we would still be in this position nearly 6 months later? Of course not, and neither did the CDC or any other organization which is why they relaxed all the COVID rules.


I did not at first but I do remember helping our community with a vaccine site and seeing the turn out...late April and realizing we were going to have another round of this...at the same exact time I was watching India and did believe it would be delta related.

I'm pretty consistent. I believe we have to keep trying to do life as normal as possible. Based on the info available I never understood concern of mask in the short term or the vaccine in the long term. I do not want to live in a world where wearing a mask is necessary to help schools stay open and hospitals stay "relatively" safe. The vaccine had a small window to prevent the latter and we missed it this time. IMO schools were always going to be problematic once the virus mutated and began infecting children at a higher rate. Unfortunately long term vaccination will be the only answer for schools and I am ok they are taking their time in making that decision even if it is causing chaos in some areas now.

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The point is these measures aren't necessary. It's the ridiculous contact tracing and testing rules that are causing these issues. We have an entire class at my school virtual and zero kids in the class ever had symptoms of COVID.


I feel you on this and the inconsistency is part of the problem. A local school here is crashing but they chose not to mandate mask (that's reversed now) and after a few days they had a boat load of cases and 10 times that number quarantined for 14 days. I am a firm believer in the guidance of 5 days after exposure test on the 7th day go back to normal if negative and without symptoms. It would certainly help the large numbers being quarantined that turn out to not have the virus to miss less school in person.

As I stated asking us to vaccinate really isn't asking much based on what is known at this point. Mandating is a different story. If private entities want to...fine. This is America. If localities want to mandate it then use the proper public channels. This is America. I don't want it coming from the top down though. It should be the reverse.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 2:38 pm
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18223 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:53 pm to
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LSU stadium mandating proof of vaccination or recent PCR test for entr
So will they let in our unvaccinated coach and players...



Sarcasm.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
50256 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22703 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:15 pm to
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The one my wife works at doenst. They are just not getting vaccinated people who need to be in the hospital


Saw something on AL.com that said 95% of COVID deaths in Alabama since April are among unvaccinated. LINK

Looks like according to their numbers, the unvaccinated also account for 84% of those hospitalized.
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
8297 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22703 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 5:04 pm to
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
11395 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:07 pm to
Derek Mason - Twitter

As some of you heard, I recently developed and battled a break-through case of Covid. Thankfully I have recovered and am looking forward to returning to the field as we prepare for the upcoming season. Having lost two family members to covid last year as well as being the father of a daughter who is immunocompromised, I understand why I made the decision to vaccinate. I can only speak for my own decision, but for those who are on the fence I encourage you to look at your ‘own why’ and consider protecting yourself, your loved ones and the healthcare workers who are working so tirelessly to save lives. I am thankful I did. I wish our country, and specifically the entire Auburn community, a safe, healthy and successful football season.”
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
2317 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:12 pm to
Yeah it got me banned on Facebook...something about community standards...said the following..."Throughout history, censorship has never been aimed at lies. It has always been aimed at truth."
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22703 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:39 pm to
Thanks for posting!

I am glad he is on the mend.

I also hope our defense excels under him and he stays awhile.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
11395 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 7:04 pm to
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defense excels
like the way that sounds
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