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Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:09 pm to DutchValleyTiger
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:09 pm to DutchValleyTiger
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Why Isn't Auburn on the same level?
Location, $, coaching, impatient fans, meddling boosters etc.
UGA competes with Tech. Clemson kind of competes with SCar. We are fighting the best coach and program in CFB, and honestly we've done an admirable job considering.
Regardless of the reasons, they ARE on a whole different level. That's new for UGA and Clemson. We were = to UGA before Gus let it get out of hand and we have always been better than Clemson.
There's not much we as fans on this board can do to change that...
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:09 pm to DutchValleyTiger
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Why Isn't Auburn on the same level?
Because we don't have the same level of built-in support as these state schools.
I want Auburn to be a perennial powerhouse as much as anyone but we're going to have to find a Bruce Pearl type football coach for it to happen.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:16 pm to aubiecat
We would have to hire a coach that is like Dabo/Smart who's potential is unknown and get lucky. Then we need boosters who will go get players that coach says he wants. Then those boosters need to get that frick out of the way.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:18 pm to Poker Dough
I think Harsin has the same potential as Dabo and Smart. If the talent level is even.
100%. Inpatient/Toxic fans need to gtfo too.
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Then we need boosters who will go get players that coach says he wants. Then those boosters need to get that frick out of the way.
100%. Inpatient/Toxic fans need to gtfo too.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:23 pm to DutchValleyTiger
I should have added Harsin could be that. He is doing things his way, and boosters need to let him do his job while supporting him and get his players and as importantly let him get HIS coaches not choose them for him. Then Harsin needs to let those coaches do their jobs (unlike Gus)
Basically people from the top down need to do their jobs, only their jobs, and trust the people they hire to do their jobs. Get in their fricking lanes and stay there.
Some of these prick boosters would rather strut up and down the sidelines while we win 7 or 8 games a season than sit in their damn seat while we win 10+ games
Basically people from the top down need to do their jobs, only their jobs, and trust the people they hire to do their jobs. Get in their fricking lanes and stay there.
Some of these prick boosters would rather strut up and down the sidelines while we win 7 or 8 games a season than sit in their damn seat while we win 10+ games
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:25 pm to DutchValleyTiger
Harsin has similar talent compared to what Saban had going into his second season at Bama. Next year will tell us alot.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 3:08 pm to FlyDownTheField
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Damn. The fanbase is really content with mediocrity.
If you define performing at a top 15 all time level as mediocrity (I don't) then sure, I'm content with it.
I do not care about Auburn football going on a dynasty run. I just don't. It'd be cool, but it's not some aspirational thing where if we fail to do that I'm not enjoying AU football. I watch Auburn for fun, to enjoy being competitive and occasionally having high levels of success and basking in the tears of our rivals. Candidly, an Auburn program that didn't experience regular ups and downs would be foreign to me and that's not the school/program I've loved for 30+ years.
All that said, it's not really my point that we shouldn't try for those things. My point is that they're not prerequisites for "Auburn optimism". Right now we're not beating rivals, we're not playing in interesting bowl games, we're not beating good OOC teams. We're not putting an entertaining product on the field either. All of those things could occur - and should - and it would totally change the way we feel about the state of AU football, regardless of whether we're making the playoff.
At some point, if we're winning 9-10 games a year and beating the other good teams in the conference, sure, we'll all get antsy if we're not playing for titles. But that's a problem I welcome.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 3:12 pm to AubieinNC2009
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There is no reason that we can not do what UGA has done, but to do it is to not accept 9ish wins to be the high mark. UGA fired their previous coach for winning 10 games a year but not any hardware.
I think we can mimic some of what UGA has done successfully, but the reality is that UGA is a wealthier program in a bigger/more important state that UGA completely dominates. So we can raise our level, but UGA is likely to keep raising theirs.
9ish wins isn't the high mark, it's an average. Averaging +/- 9 wins in the regular season would mean Auburn is regularly knocking off some of the top teams in the country and likely regularly getting to 10, 11, 12 wins.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 3:25 pm to kung fu kenny
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some good news about auburn football on this gloomy tuesday morning? anything good at all. someone help
You asked for it, and you got it!
Do you feel much better after reading all this thoughtful posts?
Posted on 1/13/22 at 5:13 pm to Weagle25
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zero advantages over us besides being in a weak conference.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 5:59 pm to FlyDownTheField
quote:Saban had two 5* players on his OL, one of whom was one of the highest rated prospects of all time at his position. He also had a 5-star WR who would go on not only to shatter school receiving records but be a NFL superstar for a decade.
Harsin has similar talent compared to what Saban had going into his second season at Bama.
But other than that, 'similar talent'
Posted on 1/13/22 at 6:26 pm to TailbackU
What advantages do they have?
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:22 pm to Weagle25
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We can absolutely do anything Clemson can do. They have zero advantages over us besides being in a weak conference.
No one plays uga and bama every year except us. If you think Clempson would have sniffed anywhere close to the NC playing our schedule, you're delusional. They'd be fighting for the occasional break thru season, just like us. They have that advantage, and that is tremendous.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:43 pm to slacker130
It drives me crazy but also makes me laugh how people in all phases of life take a snapshot of the current situation and extrapolate that this is “how it is forever.” If UGA, from an institutional and state perspective has so many more advantages, why is their basketball program the worst single program in power 5 major sports? Their arena is a dump. They just won their first championship in 41 years. Perhaps it’s not the institution but the current staff and overall commitment to certain programs. People are probably saying the exact same thing about Auburn when it comes to basketball. We beat Bama 6 straight times in the 2000’s - they were a doormat until Saban.
Nothing is definitive in college sports. Things are incredibly fluid, and often takes the right chemistry and luck to get to a spot of power, but once you get there you do whatever you need to hold onto it. Eventually it will change - look at Spurrier at Florida and USCe for God’s sake. USCw, Michigan, Nebraska, PSU and so on are historical monsters but are basically puppy dogs now (and their fall is less likely to be overcome because of lack of talent in their geographical areas).
As long as you’re a program with the basic commitment of money, prestige and resources you can rise at any point with the right people in charge. Auburn is one of those places. We have it with Pearl. Harsin could be it or not. If not, we have to find it. That simple
Nothing is definitive in college sports. Things are incredibly fluid, and often takes the right chemistry and luck to get to a spot of power, but once you get there you do whatever you need to hold onto it. Eventually it will change - look at Spurrier at Florida and USCe for God’s sake. USCw, Michigan, Nebraska, PSU and so on are historical monsters but are basically puppy dogs now (and their fall is less likely to be overcome because of lack of talent in their geographical areas).
As long as you’re a program with the basic commitment of money, prestige and resources you can rise at any point with the right people in charge. Auburn is one of those places. We have it with Pearl. Harsin could be it or not. If not, we have to find it. That simple
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 7:45 pm
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