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re: Bill Clark

Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:30 am to
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:30 am to
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Has he even gotten interest from any lower tier P5 HC openings? How about non-P5 programs that are better than UAB?

I think some of you just want him because you saw him coach at Prattville and want someone you're familiar with or someone you played for in HS to get the position at Auburn. That kind of thinking will absolutely wreck an SEC program.



Not at all.

I wasn't on the Clark bandwagon until I saw what he did AFTER UAB scrapped their program for 2 years. Go back and look at his entire coaching career. He's won at every level and their is absolutely no indication that would not continue to happen at the next level.

I guess we should look for another Iowa DC or an offensive genius that can't generate any offense.
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
3561 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:41 am to
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Not at all. I wasn't on the Clark bandwagon until I saw what he did AFTER UAB scrapped their program for 2 years. Go back and look at his entire coaching career. He's won at every level and their is absolutely no indication that would not continue to happen at the next level. I guess we should look for another Iowa DC or an offensive genius that can't generate any offense.


The fact he's received zero interest from P5 programs and zero interest even from even non-P5 programs is telling.

He needs to prove himself at a higher level than UAB (and maybe go out of the state) before he even gets considered for an SEC programs like Kentucky or Vandy. Do you also know who won at every level before becoming HC...Gus.

Did you play for him in high school or something?
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14078 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:47 am to
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The fact he's received zero interest from P5 programs and zero interest even from even non-P5 programs is telling.

He needs to prove himself at a higher level than UAB (and maybe go out of the state) before he even gets considered for an SEC programs like Kentucky or Vandy. Do you also know who won at every level before becoming HC...Gus.

Did you play for him in high school or something?



LOL! Gus is 5 years older than me.

If you don't think Clark will move on to the next level and be successful, I don't know what else to say. We either get him or someone else will.

Where was Gus successful as a HC before coming to Auburn? 1 season at Arky State?

Outside of HS, Gus was never a HC in college. Yet we hired him.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:53 am to
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Yeah, no thanks. If we ditch Malzahn, it needs to be an elite hire. Anything else is a gamble that we cannot afford.


This


I don’t understand the infatuation with Bill. Why is no one else breaking down his door? I mean hell, he didn’t even have a program at one time and not one team came asking?


No thank you
Posted by MTurbo
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2010
1901 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:55 am to
Me personally I prefer the young hungry coach who has proved he is a winner at every level he has coached at.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:56 am to
Probably the biggest indictment.

I'm not sold on Clark yet to coach at the SEC level but he is clearly a decent coach. He will probably be pretty good somewhere big eventually
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
3561 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:56 am to
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If you don't think Clark will move on to the next level and be successful, I don't know what else to say. We either get him or someone else will.


No one is even going after him. If he were coaching somewhere else besides Alabama, you wouldn’t be clamoring for him to be the HC.

Why do you think programs at the level of The AAC or equivalent are not going after him? That’s the type of school he needs to move on to before any SEC program considers him. That’s reality.

Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4329 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:57 am to
AUNashville is right; it is way too early to hire Bill Clark. Its too big a jump.

No program on our level is going to go out and hire him from under us, so what exactly are you afraid of? Yes, he will get hired away soon...by a school that we can easily poach him away from later if we so choose to.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14078 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:04 am to
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AUNashville is right; it is way too early to hire Bill Clark. Its too big a jump.

No program on our level is going to go out and hire him from under us, so what exactly are you afraid of? Yes, he will get hired away soon...by a school that we can easily poach him away from later if we so choose to.



Where was Bowden coaching when we hired him?
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:05 am to
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I don’t understand the infatuation with Bill
because he is a good coach

quote:

Why is no one else breaking down his door?
He is a local guy. Makes sense people outside of this state dont know who he is or his successes

quote:

No thank you
great analysis. Got anyone in mind
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
12904 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:08 am to
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When was the last time Auburn got a guy that was considered “elite” prior to hire?


Tuberville (at the time) was probably the closest thing.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:10 am to
All the analysis you need for Bill bud.

Local guy?

Sign him up
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14078 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:12 am to
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No one is even going after him. If he were coaching somewhere else besides Alabama, you wouldn’t be clamoring for him to be the HC.

Why do you think programs at the level of The AAC or equivalent are not going after him? That’s the type of school he needs to move on to before any SEC program considers him. That’s reality.



If you are predicating a hire based on perception of being wanted by others, you are taking a bigger gamble than you think.

Also, if you don't think Clark is on the radar for a lot of schools, you are sadly mistaken. He's 6-1 right now at place that didn't have a football program 3 years ago. If he finishes with 10 wins, and that is very likely, he won't be at UAB very long.

Who wanted Dabo when he was named HC at Clemson?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:13 am to
My comments does not mean I am not impressed what he has done at UAB and elsewhere, but I don’t believe that makes him ready for our program.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14078 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:13 am to
Who was the bigger name when Dabo was was hired? Dabo or Muschamp?

How has their careers been since?
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
12904 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:15 am to
I'm not saying that Bill Clark wouldn't be a good hire, but I'm also not saying that just because he was successful at a G5 school in building a program that he will be successful and P5 school. Look at Scott Frosr, whose Cornhuskers just lost at home to Indiana. Some programs have extenuating circumstances that are beyond an HC's control. Gus gets some blame yesterday because of some decisions he made, but he also lost to the hottest team in the country by 3 points in their house against a Heisman frontrunner at QB. All is not lost. We have much to play for. Ole Miss, UGA, Bama. Ein 2 of those 3 and we have a shot at a 10-win season with a bowl victory.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
108043 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:18 am to
But Gus proved he could coach at this level as an OC. He won a SEC championship, went to another and to a NC a year after our worst season. He fricked up changing what he did best and that’s on him too.

I am not against the possibility of replacing Gus, but they need a little better resume than Bill.

Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14078 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:18 am to
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but I don’t believe that makes him ready for our program.



Based on what?

Because he hasn't coached outside of the state? That's about the only thing I keep hearing.

Bear Bryant was relatively unknown when he was hired at Kentucky. How'd that work out?
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:18 am to
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All the analysis you need for Bill bud.

Local guy?

Sign him up

Coached at Prattville, coached at USA, coaching at UAB


what the hell else would you call him but local????
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
108043 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:19 am to
I wasn’t disagreeing with the local label. I was laughing at that being the reason he has no other offers, and your reason we should hire him.
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