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Better athlete - Nick Marshall or Robby Ashford?
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:56 am
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:56 am
So I've been dreaming back to 2013. We have the RBS now that we had then. I think our D, though different, will be comparable to 2013 stat wise, and I think our receivers and ends will be as good or better than 2013. OL looks to be good to solid - comparable or possibly better. So, just wondering what might be possible if Robby can focus and get his RPO reads down. It took Nick and Tre and the OL a few games to really start clicking. CHF has sung his praises very highly.
Could Robby, Jarquez, Damari, Battie and Sean do what Nick, Tre, CAP and Corey did? I'd hate to have to plan for and face that. CHF will play 2 QBs and he will play whoever gives us the best chance to win. How good can Robby become? It seems he has his head on straight. Thoughts? WDE.
Could Robby, Jarquez, Damari, Battie and Sean do what Nick, Tre, CAP and Corey did? I'd hate to have to plan for and face that. CHF will play 2 QBs and he will play whoever gives us the best chance to win. How good can Robby become? It seems he has his head on straight. Thoughts? WDE.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 6:07 am
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:00 am to atwitsendAU
I don't know, but Robby hasn't thrown the ball on Marshall's level yet. He doesn't have the line Marshall did. And Nick Marshall was one of the best at read option I've seen. Take away the substitution advantages we enjoyed with no huddle in 2013 and it's a moot point.
Robby is a good runner, but I haven't seen anything comparable to Marshall who was just a very savvy player. I do hope he grows into more, but for now, I haven't seen anything outside of certain plays to sub him in for.
Robby is a good runner, but I haven't seen anything comparable to Marshall who was just a very savvy player. I do hope he grows into more, but for now, I haven't seen anything outside of certain plays to sub him in for.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:13 am to atwitsendAU
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Better athlete - Nick Marshall or Robby Ashford?
Overall it would be hard not to say Marshall
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Could Robby, Jarquez, Damari, Battie and Sean do what Nick, Tre, CAP and Corey did?
Very seriously doubt it
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How good can Robby become?
He is what he is. He has not really improved in 3 years.
I am not sure we have a running back as good as Tre was in 2013. I honestly dont think people remember how good that guy was and how many great inside runs he had
Robbie does not have the temperament of Nick and that is needed in a read offense. He is a great runner and that is where he should be playing
That mesh point in 2013 was a thing of beauty
I really hate a 2QB system. Few can make it work well. It screws up the momentum and the confidence in both qb's
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 6:16 am
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:26 am to atwitsendAU
in terms of raw physical abilities, Ashford is the slightly better athlete
Nick is a much better football player
Nick is a much better football player
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:38 am to atwitsendAU
Marshall could break tackles better. Ashford is faster. Marshall had a better short passing game. Ashford has a better deep ball. The supporting cast was a lot better for Marshall than what Ashford has to work with.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:15 am to jvilletiger25
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Ashford has a better deep ball.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:32 am to LanierSpots
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He is what he is. He has not really improved in 3 years.
I’m not a part of the Ashford cult but hasn’t he only been with AU for like 13 months? And we certainly do not have enough data to determine he didn’t improve over the off-season.
Maybe you were watching all his Oregon practices but I doubt it. Not to mention he visibly improved in season last year
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 7:34 am
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:44 am to auburnnyc94
Nick Marshall and it is not even close. Nick Marshall could throw the Ball, he could run the ball and he could and does play DB. Robby can run and is fast. Nick Marshall is one of the best QBs to play at Auburn.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 7:45 am
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:54 am to LanierSpots
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That mesh point in 2013 was a thing of beauty
Nick is probably the best I've ever seen at the read option. That first TD of the Iron Bowl in 2013 was a thing of beauty.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:55 am to atwitsendAU
Nick Marshall and it’s not close.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:02 am to TTsTowel
I've heard a time or two that Ashford's best sport was baseball.
So he is like a dual sport athlete while Marshall is a three way athlete that can excel on offense/ defense/ ST.
So he is like a dual sport athlete while Marshall is a three way athlete that can excel on offense/ defense/ ST.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:02 am to auburnnyc94
Robby is still only a sophomore and FINALLY has decent QB coaching help. Nick was a magician and had instincts tailor-made for the zone read on almost every hut-hut, and Tre was the perfect complement. Can't ever forget them destroying mizzou in the championship. IIRC Tre had over 300 yards. If Robby's passing and reads can be coached up just a bit more, I'd like to see how dangerous our backfield can be. Both he and Payton have the respect of the team and coaches, they both need to play, they both bring almost completely different strengths. I think CHF can and will make a 2 QB system work. You can't keep Robby off the field and game planning for both Payton and Robby and what they bring to table will be a bitch for everyone. Just my 2 cents. 
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:04 am to atwitsendAU
I guess you’d have to define Athlete… Ashford might have more raw athleticism, but NM had way more skill.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:09 am to TTsTowel
A 2 way stand out vs a player that can’t even play the position he plays… GTFOH not even close Marshall by a country mile. This Robby is young crap is old he has been in college forever.
And no he’s not faster than Marshall.
Robby has his place on the team but eventually people have to be real with the kid and give him the best advice for him personally.
And no he’s not faster than Marshall.
Robby has his place on the team but eventually people have to be real with the kid and give him the best advice for him personally.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:10 am to atwitsendAU
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Robby is still only a sophomore
Meh its hard to judge sophomore years when one has been in a college weight room for 4 or 5 years now.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:26 am to atwitsendAU
Marshall signed with UGA out of high school because they offered to let him play both football *and* basketball. Marshall also competed in the track & field high school state finals in high jump in his freshman year but left track & field to concentrate on football and basketball after that. Marshall was the Georgia high school basketball player-of-the-year twice in his high school’s classification. In football he led his high school team to a state championship, set a then-record for Georgia high school career TD passes, was a high school All American, and after becoming an Auburn player led his Auburn team to a BCS National Championship Game.
In two seasons at Auburn, Marshall passed for 4500+ yards, 60% completion percentage, 34 passing TDs (only 13 ints), 1800+ yds rushing, and 23 rushing TDs.
Robby has played football and baseball at the college level. He was the top-tanked baseball recruit in the state of Alabama his senior year in school. In the 20 games he either started or subbed in at Oregon baseball, his stat-line was a .200 (7-for-35) batting average with a triple, double, two RBI, six runs scored and three stolen bases. He has no recorded football stats at Oregon.
In 1+ seasons at Auburn he has passed for 1600+ yards, 49% completion percentage, 7 passing TDs (with 7 ints), 760+ rushing yards, and 10 rushing TDs.
In two seasons at Auburn, Marshall passed for 4500+ yards, 60% completion percentage, 34 passing TDs (only 13 ints), 1800+ yds rushing, and 23 rushing TDs.
Robby has played football and baseball at the college level. He was the top-tanked baseball recruit in the state of Alabama his senior year in school. In the 20 games he either started or subbed in at Oregon baseball, his stat-line was a .200 (7-for-35) batting average with a triple, double, two RBI, six runs scored and three stolen bases. He has no recorded football stats at Oregon.
In 1+ seasons at Auburn he has passed for 1600+ yards, 49% completion percentage, 7 passing TDs (with 7 ints), 760+ rushing yards, and 10 rushing TDs.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 8:38 am
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:36 am to FearlessFreep
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in terms of raw physical abilities, Ashford is the slightly better athlete
No way. Marshall could have played basketball in college too.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:40 am to jvilletiger25
quote:there is very little evidence that Ashford throws a good deep ball
Ashford has a better deep ball.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:48 am to atwitsendAU
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Robby is still only a sophomore
I guess, technically . But this is his 4th year on a college football roster. By this point in a player's career, you usually know what you've got. I think that is the case with Robby as well.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:54 am to IAmNERD
I get that line of thinking, but wonder how much some good QB coaching could do. He hasn't gotten it for years. I guess we'll find out. I mean look at Malik Willis at Auburn and what CHF did with him at Liberty, and where is he now? Rd3, 86th pick in the 2022 draft and battling for the Titans starting QB position. CHF is on record multiple times as saying Robby Ashford is the most athletic QB he has ever coached. Just saying.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 9:08 am
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